• itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Mate I’m sure there’s a whole pile of things in the Christian bible that you don’t follow. And I’m not even talking the gotcha things but like, actual teachings. Like, do you keep the sabbath? If you’re a woman do you follow all of thine husbands commands? If not am I right to say you are not a sincere Christian? If not, what are you? No it can’t work that way. If someone says they are Christian, they are Christian. You can say that Catholics are bad Christians, or that they’re going to hell, but you can’t say they aren’t Christian, because then no one is Christian. That’s what denominations are for.

    That’s like me saying I know you don’t believe in God but you also murdered someone and I don’t like that so you’re not really an atheist.

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      Well, you’re doing the thing where you’re confusing fundamentalist Christianity with the entire religion.

      Let’s start with Jesus’s teachings and go from there.

      Now, obviously, no one upholds his teachings perfectly not even his own disciples. That’s not the standard. But I do think a fair standard is that you not directly base your faith around hate and violence. Not if you want me to regard you as a sincere Christian. In the same way that just because you say you’re vegan doesn’t make you one if you eat steak.

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        2 months ago

        Sorry dude, if you believe Jesus is God then you’re a Christian. Everything else is denominations and arguments about true scotsmen. You don’t get to tell me I’m not one and I don’t get to tell you you’re not one. If someone doesn’t eat meat they are vegetarian, even if all they eat is processed junk. I can say they are a bad vegetarian, but so long as they don’t eat meat I can’t say they aren’t one at all.

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          2 months ago

          Well, my example was someone who claims to be a vegetarian and eats steak.

          And I do get to infer someone’s sincerity based on whether they contradict themselves to that degree.

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            Christianity is a pile of contradictions. If that’s the bar no one’s a Christian. Turns out if you choose to believe something based on faith despite all evidence you’re gonna find yourself with some weird company. If that makes you uncomfortable then you might just be on the path to joining reality.