Apparently I’m now a shitlib for not buying into this disgusting tankie propaganda that it was all the Wests fault and Stalin had to ally with Hitler.

For a mod who loves to ban others for bad jacketing, they sure have no problem doing it to other anarchists.

The Ban:

The Context:

  • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    Before 1941 everyone collaborated, appeased, or worked with the Nazis in some form. And then 1941 happened and the Holocaust.

    Rather than this being a lesson for future generations of why Nazis cannot be collaborated, appeased, or worked with: it seems as though this is some ace up the sleeve for catching modern debatelords for apparently being inconsistent.

    Generally I think if you’re using terms like ‘shitlib’ you’re losing ground, and of there’s someone saying ‘tankie’ there is unlikely any common ground to be found. Accurate or no, the first one to use either term is usually in the wrong, imo.

    • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      Before 1941? I assume you mean before 1939?

      I don’t think there’s any equivalence in saying “if you invade Poland we are going to declare war on you” and then doing so (as France and Britain did) and literally teaming up with Hitler to invade Poland (as the Soviet Union did).

      Appeasement was a weak strategy but the idea was less that war needed to be avoided at all costs and more that war with Hitler was inevitable but western Europe needed to buy a few months to try to catch up in rearmament. They were just a few months away from fighting the battle of Britain with biplanes.

      • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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        1941 was when Germany invaded the USSR (and Japan attacked the USA), which I was marking as the last point in which any major/global power remained diplomatic, even neutral, with the Nazis.