• Nobody@anarchist.nexus
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    10 hours ago

    A lot of the founding concepts of the US from the Declaration of Independence were inspired by earlier native treaties among indigenous nations. Even the highest ideals the US was created to strive for had roots in Native American ideologies.

    The entire concept as a nation for over two centuries has been to take in immigrants from everywhere and create a melting pot culture where everyone makes new lives together.

    The idea that the US is a white ethnostate is staggeringly ignorant of both history and present reality.

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      Where are you bringing this rose colored glasses history of the US from? I mean, that’s a wonderful ideal but ignores a lot of very bloody, violent and horrific suffering of native Americans and black Americans history. As well as the tremendous suffering of many earlier immigrant groups like German and Irish Catholics. Our kids literally died in factories and mines following fantasies like that.

      When I hear this propoganda it always makes me think of the Don Bluth film American Tale. They flee the pogroms and sing on the boat over, “there are no Cats in America and the streets are paved with cheese!” Of course, there were cats in America and oppression and poverty and orphans on every corner. As soon as they ran out of one group to exploit they would ship in another and turn them on the new group.

      One of my early grade school memories was standing on an island in the Wisconsin River with my classmates learning about how they mass murdered children like me. They were surrendering. They opened fire and killed hundreds of innocents. I don’t think their treatise were very inspiring while the river ran red with their children’s blood. Then we all moved in and built our barns on top of their burial mounds because it was the high ground on the property. Let our dairy cows shit on their ancestors for generations. Remember kids, always sign papers with the white man government.

      It’s also absolutely not a mistake that Texas is as racist and horrific as it is and that you see many white Texans running to colonize Israel now. They were sent to Texas to mass murder the Mexican population and overtake the land from the people who lived there even before it was “won” in the “war”. A lot of Irish immigrants partook in it too because it was one of the only ways to raise their social class. Which you also see with the iconic Buffalo soldiers who were black men sent to genocide the Native American population after the civil war to raise their social status as freemen.

      I’m primarily bohemian-Czech and German Catholic descent and many of the people from my demographic now live to step on the newest batch of immigrants. That’s the only tried and true American tradition. You even see it with the Cubans in Florida today. They saw themselves as different from other Latino groups because they were established. Germans once beat on the Irish because they were in competition and both beat on the blacks. Labor history is full of these stories. But you also saw them intermarry a lot because they were all on the bottom of someone else’s shoe.

      The US was NEVER designed to be a melting pot. It was designed to be a land grab for resources and to exploit various groups of immigrants to make a profit. I mean look out West what they did to Chinese immigrants. They would hang them from cliffs to mine, if they fell asleep they cut their ropes letting them fall to their deaths. And the horrors of the railroads are too numerous to name here.

      It’s always been a few rich white protestant families exploiting the newest off the boat group. I love the fantasy of the melting pot because that’s what it should be today. There are a lot of white Americans who are jumping on the bandwagon thinking they’re included in a group they aren’t because WWII Nazism raised their social status in the US. That’s why you see a lot of the poor white immigrants’ descendants clinging to it because it affords them a class they’re locked out of as Germans, Irish, Polacks, Norwegians, Italians or just poor southern European-mutt whites etc. The only prerequisite is that you’re white presenting, a vast “improvement” for those groups that were normally divided by religion, origin, etc. So maybe that’s your melting pot?

      The entire US system is designed to exploit immigrants for profit. It was never to “build a great nation together and sing kumbaya my lord into the sunset” as some great bastion of diversity (over the mass graves of native, Mexican and blacks of course). This land is drenched in blood and pain. Don’t erase that or you’re not better than the “ban critical race theory” or the “I don’t see color” folks.

      You can’t rewrite the future with lies. You need to hold space for the truth if you ever hope to deconstruct it and build something better. Let’s make that melting pot fantasy a reality but in order to do that you need to first look very seriously at the real current reality. You’re not going to strike down white Christian nationalists by regurgitating their own sanitized version of history. You need to understand where they were born from and what motivates them if you ever want to defeat them.

    • mathemachristian [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      The entire concept as a nation for over two centuries has been to take in immigrants from everywhere and create a melting pot culture where everyone makes new lives together.

      Tell that to the chinese and irish workers doing railroad construction. The native americans that were (and still are!) genocided. All the africans that were brought in as slaves to replace the enslaved native population because it is easier to control foreigners in a strange land than the people that lived there for millenia. Immigration were from the colonizers country (France and England), and other nations were only allowed (or forcibly brought) in for cheap labor.

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      Leave it to Eric Schmitt to be staggeringly ignorant, thats his expertise.

      When this piece of shit was the MO AG he did literally nothing for the people of the state whatsoever. I once met him in his office during a tour of the capital, and he said that the only issue anyone cared about was robocalls. Just robocalls. As if there werent a million and one things he could have actually been trying to tackle to improve the lives of Missourians. The guy is not only a racist piece of shit that should be strung up by the toes, hes also incredibly and unfathomably stupid

      Ill never forget how pissed he looked while I drank coffee out of his personal Truman State mug, that his own dumbass deputy poured for me, while I pushed back on the shit spewing out of his mouth. He was pissed and it was truly a glorious experience