This argument makes no sense, BYD offers compact cheap EVs, a product Ford does not produce. If there is no market demand for that, then tariffs serve no purpose. If there is market demand but the companies refuse to fill that niche, then why are we protecting them?
BYD offers compact cheap EVs, a product Ford does not produce.
That Ford (and GM and whatever Chrysler calls themselves now) chooses not to produce.
There is a market for affordable EV commuter cars, and the north American industry chooses not to address that market because they seem to prefer to produce land yachts and mall assault vehicles.
Exactly. Consumers are idiots. No one costs out a vehicle with 5 years of fuel costs. Instead, they buy a $60,000 truck based on 1950s technology that sucks fuel at $200 a tank and then blames government policies.
They cannot compete with a Chinese company subsidized by the Chinese government
That company isn’t operating in Canada, and I’m not suggesting that they need to.
I’m suggesting that the companies who already operate here fill a gap in the market so there isn’t any consumer demand to try and court that unfairly advantaged Chinese company.
Because the Chinese government is making them sell below cost.
The link you provided literally says that the Chinese government is telling them not to do that. The issue is described as BYD trying to edge out other Chinese companies and monopolize the Chinese car market.
The whole argument for the tariffs is to protect local car manufacturers and the people who work for them, but Canada doesn’t produce EVs right now and the issue is that now we are telling car companies they dont have to produce EVs either. So what is the logic behind the tariffs at this point? Seems like its just protecting car companies from needing to innovate.
This argument makes no sense, BYD offers compact cheap EVs, a product Ford does not produce. If there is no market demand for that, then tariffs serve no purpose. If there is market demand but the companies refuse to fill that niche, then why are we protecting them?
That Ford (and GM and whatever Chrysler calls themselves now) chooses not to produce.
There is a market for affordable EV commuter cars, and the north American industry chooses not to address that market because they seem to prefer to produce land yachts and mall assault vehicles.
That’s exactly what the person above you is saying, I think.
Yes, and I simply expanded on that point.
Exactly. Consumers are idiots. No one costs out a vehicle with 5 years of fuel costs. Instead, they buy a $60,000 truck based on 1950s technology that sucks fuel at $200 a tank and then blames government policies.
Shocker, Ford and GM choose not to go broke. They cannot compete with a Chinese company subsidized by the Chinese government to the tune of >$30B, selling every single car at a loss.
The ignorance in this thread is incredible.
The least expensive EVs in Europe are $40,000CAD. $46,000-50,000 with VAT.
Ford Mach E is $46K CAD.
You guys are expecting Ford and GM to go head to head with a company allowed to function $30B in debt backed by the Chinese government.
They are already in arrears with parts suppliers.
That company isn’t operating in Canada, and I’m not suggesting that they need to.
I’m suggesting that the companies who already operate here fill a gap in the market so there isn’t any consumer demand to try and court that unfairly advantaged Chinese company.
Because the Chinese government is making them sell below cost. It’s called dumping. The point is to destroy local industry.
But BYD is fucked, they cannot survive on this much longer.
While the feds tried to incentivise EVs, the provincial PCs ripped out chargers and subsidized gas prices.
The link you provided literally says that the Chinese government is telling them not to do that. The issue is described as BYD trying to edge out other Chinese companies and monopolize the Chinese car market.
The whole argument for the tariffs is to protect local car manufacturers and the people who work for them, but Canada doesn’t produce EVs right now and the issue is that now we are telling car companies they dont have to produce EVs either. So what is the logic behind the tariffs at this point? Seems like its just protecting car companies from needing to innovate.