Got banned from [email protected] for pointing out that it was a big reach to say that wind power is included in the term “solar energy”. The mod referenced a temp ban from two years ago? Tried to say I’ve got a “history” of trolling and harassment, as well that I “doxxed” user DMs which also happened two years ago. I even, at the time, talked with the mod involved and reposted that comment without the DM screenshots. Like I don’t have an entirely squeaky clean modlog but it’s only a single page over two years? What the fluff? Like it’s a two week ban and I could hardly care but jeeze this feels like overreach.
https://slrpnk.net/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=518329
When you make a post about a ban a comment like this feels a little disingenuous.
I agree with the mod that wind should be counted as solar since ultimately it is derived from the sun’s solar energy hitting the earth. Really though we should just call them renewable energy sources.
I also agree with you though, that doesn’t seem like a comment worthy of a ban. I’d just wait the two weeks and not sweat it.
Idk by that definition we animal are all solar powered.
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Like another poster said, oil is rotten plants, which grew from solar energy, so oil=solar.
Nuclear power plants run on uranium. Uranium is produced during the merging of neutron stars. So nuclear=solar.
Should we just say that all energy is solar? Or maybe we can just agree on some high-level categories to help differentiate between different concepts to make discussing them less confusing?
No, wind gets a pass because it is literally just recovering solar energy from the planet being heated by the sun. So it’s solar energy. There are no chemical steps involved to get to the energy and it’s renewable. When did I say that we shouldn’t have high level categories to help differentiate between concepts? I only said that I believe wind should be considered solar energy because it is. The other types you’re referring to are many steps removed from just plain old energy transfer.
Well I, for one, will refuse to call them solar turbines.
Idk. Differentiating between physics and chemistry is kind of problematic. That turns solar, wind, geothermal and hydro into solar. But biomass for example is exempt since that one might grow plants with the sun but then uses chemistry. Likely entire photosynthesis doesn’t count. Also charging EVs with solar, and some forms of storage magically turn the energy into non-solar due to the chemical batteries. (Same with hydrogen/fuel cells.) And it’s debatable whether chemistry isn’t just physics to begin with, as the distinction is fairly arbitrary…
Hydroelectric is also solar because the hydrologic cycle is dependent on solar evaporation of water to create rain clouds:
Next up on Seven Degrees of Solar Energy…
I think a large part of what this comm is for, is warning other users that a PTB exists in the first place. I’m a bit annoyed, but I can cope with the ban, it’s no skin off my back.
So oil is solar energy too. From sun to plant to oil. Boom. Solar.
There are chemical processes involved in that. Wind is just the sun heating up rocks and oceans and air.
Wind is a chemical.
Isn’t heating things up a chemical process?
Not a physicist, but from my half-remembered high-school understanding: not always, it depends. A chemical process by definition requires a change in molecular configuration which doesn’t necessarily happen with any temperature change. It can happen, like in distillation for example, but for each element or molecule there are areas on the temperature/pressure scale that won’t trigger any chemical processes, only physical ones.
No, heat is just energy transfer.