💬 0 🔁 8 ❤️ 26 · The Scott Alexander Email: An Explainer · So, Scott Alexander sent an email to someone in 2014. In 2021 the person who got that email thought that Scott was not being honest about…
(I will appreciate if you NEVER TELL ANYONE I SAID THIS, not even in confidence. And by “appreciate”, I mean that if you ever do, I’ll probably either leave the Internet forever or seek some sort of horrible revenge.)
Taken literally, this seems like kind of a fucked up thing to say to a friend. Or a stranger. Anyone really. Why would you say this? Why would you write this in an email and then send it, on purpose, under any circumstance?
scott clearly thought that it was important to get that message out. idk what precisely happened there, but i’ll risk a guess that perhaps scott thought that he found a partner in crime, so to speak, and secrecy would help them both. adversary would just use info as is. maybe the biggest thing scott could get in terms of blackmail was flimsy “okay, but you are into this thing too” which won’t be effective in all cases, or maybe he didn’t even had that
if one person came out and spilled the beans, it’d suggest that there might be more people who didn’t
I think Hallquist had a short-lived blog with criticisms of LessWrong and EA between his time on FreethoughtBlogs/Pantheos and his run for office and Medium blog. Possibly https://topherhallquist.wordpress.com/2015/08/17/reply-to-scott-alexander/ In the original Twitter post, Hallquist described Alexander as “a vague internet acquaintance at the time (when he sent the emails)” and it sounds like after 2014 Hallquist explored LW and EA and decided they were messed up. (Hallquist’s post also suggests that if you want to sound like a bold contrarian, see what a median expert at a university think about a topic rather than reading blogs).
I like to remind myself that I see what happens online, but the offers of money and the sexual propositions probably mostly happen in person or between people who have met in person. So I don’t know as much about the LessWrong or EA communities as I think.
I don’t think that he was trying to make a threat. I think that he was trying to explain the difficulties of being a cryptofascist! Scott’s entire grey-tribe persona collapses if he ever draws a solid conclusion; he would lose his audience if he shifted from cryptofascism to outright ethnonationalism because there are about twice as many moderates as fascists. Scott’s grift only continues if he is skeptical and nuanced about HBD; being an open believer would turn off folks who are willing to read words but not to be hateful. His “appreciat[ion]” is wholly for his brand and revenue streams.
This also contextualizes the “revenge”. If another content creator publishes these emails as part of their content then Scott has to decide how to fight the allegations. If the content is well-sourced mass-media journalism then Scott “leave[s] the Internet” by deleting and renaming his blog. If the content is another alt-right crab in the bucket then Scott “seek[s] some sort of horrible revenge” by attacking the rest of the alt-right as illiterate, lacking nuance, and unable to cite studies. No wonder he doesn’t talk about us or to us; we’re not part of his media strategy, so he doesn’t know what to do about us.
In this sense, we’re moderates too; none of us are hunting down Scott IRL. But that moderation is necessary in order to have the discussion in the first place.
if one person came out and spilled the beans, it’d suggest that there might be more people who didn’t
I mean, after his full throated defense of Lynn’s IQ map (featuring disgraced nazi college dropout Cremieux/TP0 as a subject matter expert) what other beans might be interesting enough to spill? Did he lie about becoming a kidney donor?
I think the emails are important because a) they make a case that for all his performative high-mindedness and deference to science and whinging about polygenic selection he came to his current views through the same white supremacist/great replacement milieu as every other pretentious gutter racist out there and b) he is so consistently disingenuous that the previous statement might not even matter much… he might honestly believe that priming impressionable well-off techies towards blood and soil fascism precursors was worth it if we end up allowing unchecked human genetic experimentation to come up with 260IQ babies that might have a fighting chance against shAItan.
I guess it could come out that despite his habit of including conflict of interest disclosures, his public views may be way more for sale than is generally perceived.
scott clearly thought that it was important to get that message out. idk what precisely happened there, but i’ll risk a guess that perhaps scott thought that he found a partner in crime, so to speak, and secrecy would help them both. adversary would just use info as is. maybe the biggest thing scott could get in terms of blackmail was flimsy “okay, but you are into this thing too” which won’t be effective in all cases, or maybe he didn’t even had that
if one person came out and spilled the beans, it’d suggest that there might be more people who didn’t
I think Hallquist had a short-lived blog with criticisms of LessWrong and EA between his time on FreethoughtBlogs/Pantheos and his run for office and Medium blog. Possibly https://topherhallquist.wordpress.com/2015/08/17/reply-to-scott-alexander/ In the original Twitter post, Hallquist described Alexander as “a vague internet acquaintance at the time (when he sent the emails)” and it sounds like after 2014 Hallquist explored LW and EA and decided they were messed up. (Hallquist’s post also suggests that if you want to sound like a bold contrarian, see what a median expert at a university think about a topic rather than reading blogs).
I like to remind myself that I see what happens online, but the offers of money and the sexual propositions probably mostly happen in person or between people who have met in person. So I don’t know as much about the LessWrong or EA communities as I think.
[omitted a paragraph psychoanalyzing Scott]
I don’t think that he was trying to make a threat. I think that he was trying to explain the difficulties of being a cryptofascist! Scott’s entire grey-tribe persona collapses if he ever draws a solid conclusion; he would lose his audience if he shifted from cryptofascism to outright ethnonationalism because there are about twice as many moderates as fascists. Scott’s grift only continues if he is skeptical and nuanced about HBD; being an open believer would turn off folks who are willing to read words but not to be hateful. His “appreciat[ion]” is wholly for his brand and revenue streams.
This also contextualizes the “revenge”. If another content creator publishes these emails as part of their content then Scott has to decide how to fight the allegations. If the content is well-sourced mass-media journalism then Scott “leave[s] the Internet” by deleting and renaming his blog. If the content is another alt-right crab in the bucket then Scott “seek[s] some sort of horrible revenge” by attacking the rest of the alt-right as illiterate, lacking nuance, and unable to cite studies. No wonder he doesn’t talk about us or to us; we’re not part of his media strategy, so he doesn’t know what to do about us.
In this sense, we’re moderates too; none of us are hunting down Scott IRL. But that moderation is necessary in order to have the discussion in the first place.
I mean, after his full throated defense of Lynn’s IQ map (featuring disgraced nazi college dropout Cremieux/TP0 as a subject matter expert) what other beans might be interesting enough to spill? Did he lie about becoming a kidney donor?
I think the emails are important because a) they make a case that for all his performative high-mindedness and deference to science and whinging about polygenic selection he came to his current views through the same white supremacist/great replacement milieu as every other pretentious gutter racist out there and b) he is so consistently disingenuous that the previous statement might not even matter much… he might honestly believe that priming impressionable well-off techies towards blood and soil fascism precursors was worth it if we end up allowing unchecked human genetic experimentation to come up with 260IQ babies that might have a fighting chance against shAItan.
I guess it could come out that despite his habit of including conflict of interest disclosures, his public views may be way more for sale than is generally perceived.
and it was 2014
keep in mind these mails are years-disclosed by now - at least a few of them will have learned a lesson and gotten more careful
(I’m constantly glad that as many of them do not)
I’m reasonably certain worse emails exist but they’re with sympathetic individuals.