Okay hang on. Yes, Ice Ice Baby and Under Pressure don’t have a lot of notes in common, in terms of absolute note count, but when the songs come on, the layperson doesn’t know which is which. Any normal person would listen to 10 seconds of Ice Ice Baby and go “oh yeah, that’s Under Pressure by Queen”.
So yeah, if there’s a prompt that people can use to trick an AI into spitting out a chapter verbatim that’s interesting, but I would say minor infringment. No one is going to read a Ton Clancy novel by systematically tricking the AI to spit out each entire chapter one after the other, and it’s presented to essentially an audience of one, the promoter.
But if I was to take that chapter, the one it spit out verbatim, and put it as a chapter of my book that I published, then yeah, definitely I could be sued for copyright, even if I didn’t do it willingly. Because people would read it and go “oh totally, that’s Pelican Brief”
You are arguing that people not being able to differentiate two songs by a 10 second snippet is bad enough for copyright infringement, but spitting out full chapters is ok because nobody is going to read a full book that way?
Nobody’s going to listen to a Queen song in 10 second snippets either. The intro is similar, but after the intro the song is entirely different. Nobody would mistake e.g. the verse or the refrain of Ice Ice Baby with Under Pressure. It’s two entirely separate genres.
So if the intro sounding kinda similar is in issue, then outputting the intro of a book should be just as bad.
But if I was to take that chapter, the one it spit out verbatim, and put it as a chapter of my book that I published, then yeah, definitely I could be sued for copyright, even if I didn’t do it willingly. Because people would read it and go “oh totally, that’s Pelican Brief”
That’s what I don’t get. If I download a book illegally off piratedbooks.to (made up URL), then not only I but also piratedbooks.to will be liable for the copyright infringement, and generally piratedbooks.to will be much more liable because they are commercially distributing pirated goods.
Now if I ask ChatGPT to output copyrighted content (an action that isn’t much different than “asking” a piracy platform’s website for the content by clicking the “download” button), then OpenAI is for some reason not liable at all for that because it was all me doing this. Even though their platform provided the pirated content.
Okay hang on. Yes, Ice Ice Baby and Under Pressure don’t have a lot of notes in common, in terms of absolute note count, but when the songs come on, the layperson doesn’t know which is which. Any normal person would listen to 10 seconds of Ice Ice Baby and go “oh yeah, that’s Under Pressure by Queen”.
So yeah, if there’s a prompt that people can use to trick an AI into spitting out a chapter verbatim that’s interesting, but I would say minor infringment. No one is going to read a Ton Clancy novel by systematically tricking the AI to spit out each entire chapter one after the other, and it’s presented to essentially an audience of one, the promoter.
But if I was to take that chapter, the one it spit out verbatim, and put it as a chapter of my book that I published, then yeah, definitely I could be sued for copyright, even if I didn’t do it willingly. Because people would read it and go “oh totally, that’s Pelican Brief”
You are arguing that people not being able to differentiate two songs by a 10 second snippet is bad enough for copyright infringement, but spitting out full chapters is ok because nobody is going to read a full book that way?
Nobody’s going to listen to a Queen song in 10 second snippets either. The intro is similar, but after the intro the song is entirely different. Nobody would mistake e.g. the verse or the refrain of Ice Ice Baby with Under Pressure. It’s two entirely separate genres.
So if the intro sounding kinda similar is in issue, then outputting the intro of a book should be just as bad.
That’s what I don’t get. If I download a book illegally off piratedbooks.to (made up URL), then not only I but also piratedbooks.to will be liable for the copyright infringement, and generally piratedbooks.to will be much more liable because they are commercially distributing pirated goods.
Now if I ask ChatGPT to output copyrighted content (an action that isn’t much different than “asking” a piracy platform’s website for the content by clicking the “download” button), then OpenAI is for some reason not liable at all for that because it was all me doing this. Even though their platform provided the pirated content.