When having to admit their fault the moderator started looking for arbitrary reasons to ban me. Such as not using the exact terminology of the Amnesty report. Which does not call it genocide.


The moderator is also watching user votes, and calling out people not voting with him.

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    I promise you that the very last people to reject the Atlanticist Uyghur genocide psyop—if they don’t literally take it to their grave—will be the virulently anti-tankie Lemmitors who have emotionally invested so much in it being true.

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      Holy hell someone just linked the mod doing actual genocide propaganda. They are a massive Zionist.

      Their posts are insane.

      And two years into the genocide and they are claiming Israel is the victim of ‘Arab violence’.

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        not surprising goat is a zionist in addition to running a Nazi bar comm

        edit for the fash replying to me: + I’m an anarchist

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          And you’re a self-described tankie who is afraid of discussion, hence why your instance is defederated from mine.

          I take offence to being called a nazi and would appreciate it if you don’t.

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              I’m not sure you want to make that “nazi bar” argument because it can be applied to many things. Take a Free Palestine protest as an example, if someone is flying a Hezbollah flag or Hamas flag, does that entire protest and group then become sympathetic to terrorists and encouraging of rape? Can I throw you through the purity test and demand you disavow obvious evils, such as Hamas?

              Regardless, there are no Nazis or extremists in Meanwhileongrad. I regularly check members, where they come from and what their habits are, and give fair and public warnings to people who violate the rules. If you can identify any, please, do let me know, because I don’t want them in my community.

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                Can I throw you through the purity test and demand you disavow obvious evils, such as Hamas?

                no, because I don’t disavow Hamas, I respect them as one of the only defenders of Palestine. you might have thought that was some sort of “gotcha”, but I have never been fainthearted about voicing my adamant support for their struggle.

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                  They raped women.

                  However, I do see this as a good opportunity to question some of your views, not that I plan on changing them, but rather that these are the sorts of people my community regularly encounters.

                  So if you hate Nazis, then surely you must hate their actions of the Holocaust, yes? And surely you agree that the horrors of the Holocaust should be taught to everyone?

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                    They raped women.

                    And Israel ran pro-rape riots after the Israeli government told its people to knock it off. One of the men that committed rape in the pro-rape riot was released from jail and made a celebrity on Israeli TV.

                    You ignoring facts shows your bias. You also ignoring the magnitude of atrocities shows your bias.

                    You run a Nazi bar and should be ashamed.

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        Not disagreeing with you here, but I recommend changing “insane” to a less ableist term, like evil.

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        Were there insane posts other than the two in your screenshot? Because those are literally just news articles of political responses to the war. Sharing news of something isn’t endorsing it, otherwise that would make a lot of people inadvertent genocide supporters.

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          Combined with the comments shown below, it’s clear that they are intentionally pushing the Zionist point of view by sharing hasbara uncritically.

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          You won’t find any or get an answer. I even clarified my views down below.

          I believe Israel has the right to exist, but not the settlements in the West Bank, and certainly not as a religious state. But I also believe the same of Palestine, that it should be a state that can be held to international law and also not as a religious state. I find myself in agreement with Macron’s plan for peace. I also believe there is great conflation between zionism, imperialism and antisemitism.

          If you are supportive of a two-state solution, where both Israel and Palestine have independent states, then you are a zionist as you believe Israel should exist. Israel’s apparent plans to take over Gaza are imperialist and wrong, as is their response to the 7th of October massacres, but not all of Gaza is innocent either, as is evident by the initial attack.

          I think it’s important to draw this distinction because extremist groups (which I have much experience with) often use zionist as a dog-whistle for Jew. It appears some people mistake neutrality or fairness as supportive of one side, as if there can only be one side suffering during wars.

          My personal view is that violence is wrong.

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            Macron want an demiliteralized paledtine rejecting paledtinians right to self defense. Macron did nothing agsinst israel government thst are enabling genocide, are building illegal settlements and even arm and protect to settler terrorists

            You are whitewashing zionism so you clearly not believe in any solution. Being a zionism is believing that any jew has right to the whole land either because you believe god gave them the land or just because 2000 years ago there was a jewish kingfom. It is a supermasist and colonial ideology

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        Oh hey you’re doing exactly what I criticised this community for – Interrogating peoples views as opposed to the moderation and whether or not the person, you in this case, deserved it.

        But you’re also cherry-picking, three comments out of context, and three links from neutral sources when the conflict was fresh. Here are a random assortment of comments I’ve also made when you search Israel. Convenient how you left these out, note the dates.

        To make it clear:

        I believe Israel has the right to exist, but not the settlements in the West Bank, and certainly not as a religious state. But I also believe the same of Palestine, that it should be a state that can be held to international law and also not as a religious state. I find myself in agreement with Macron’s plan for peace. I also believe there is great conflation between zionism, imperialism and antisemitism.

        If you are supportive of a two-state solution, where both Israel and Palestine have independent states, then you are a zionist as you believe Israel should exist. Israel’s apparent plans to take over Gaza are imperialist and wrong, as is their response to the 7th of October massacres, but not all of Gaza is innocent either, as is evident by the initial attack.

        I think it’s important to draw this distinction because extremist groups (which I have much experience with) often use zionist as a dog-whistle for Jew. It appears some people mistake neutrality or fairness as supportive of one side, as if there can only be one side suffering during wars.

        My personal view is that violence is wrong.

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          The first screenshot is by top .The second by new. Weird that I simply selected the first search comments which show you defending genocide and actively pushing pro-genocide propaganda. How very selective of me.

          You chose to respond in this thread. And now you are called out you quickly flee because it is becoming very inconvenient. I am sure you would rather continue this discussion in a place where you can censor people like you keep doing.

          I think it’s important to draw this distinction because extremist groups (which I have much experience with) often use zionist as a dog-whistle for Jew.

          Look at that even the generic gaslighting. Pretending that all criticism of Israel and Zionism is Jew hate even when the word Jew is not mentioned. It really makes it clear what side you are on by repeating that propaganda. By the way I cannot find a single instance of you saying Israel is committing genocide. I can find many instances of you trying to both-sides the genocide though.

          Can you confirm Israel is committing genocide in Gaza and in the West Bank?

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            Gaza? Yes, as the Holodomor is a genocide, and the suppression of food that Israel is doing is very similar to what Stalin did. So yes.

            The West Bank? I’m unsure about but I think you can fairly say it is apartheid, and the settlements are largely illegal and shouldn’t exist. In what country in the world can you have private citizens with military-grade weaponry pointing at another state’s citizens? It’s wrong.

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      Let’s hope you literally take your support of russian genocidal imperialism to your grave too.

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      Amazing how MAGA and Tankies end up talking the same. Oh, it’s all just a psyop