When having to admit their fault the moderator started looking for arbitrary reasons to ban me. Such as not using the exact terminology of the Amnesty report. Which does not call it genocide.

The moderator is also watching user votes, and calling out people not voting with him.

  • Skiluros@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    224·
    8 days ago

    Genocide is also the extermination of culture and identity, not just mass killings. Amnesty as an organisation tends be extremely conservative with their approach and language (for better or for worse).

    In Ukraine, they had a report saying that the military should leave all cities. Comically stupid stuff. I am not saying this randomly, I have two military facilities near where I live (albeit one that’s really close is likely to be low priority for the russians). The leader of Amnesty Ukraine resigned over this report.

    And considering the nature of MOG, it would be reasonable to expect a lower threshold for mod actions for tankie-adjacent content.

    • IndustryStandard@lemmy.worldOP
      78·
      7 days ago

      I am not sure if this is the place to continue the discussion, but you are free to step up for the admin and find another respected human rights organisation which calls it a genocide. The admin had to concede because he could not.

      While the definition of genocide is so wide that it encompasses basically any mass killing, it actually means trying to exterminate a ppoulation. Ukraine has also not started a genocide case against Russia at the ICJ for obvious reasons. Russia has an ICJ genocide case against Ukraine which it will probably lose.

      • Skiluros@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        103·
        7 days ago

        I am pointing out that there are limitations to Amnesty’s approach. Not debate club stuff, but real issues.

        You wouldn’t be this cavalier if you got to sent to a camp for going to a mosque in Xinjiang or if your wife or daughter got forcibly sterilized.

        I can guarantee you that!

        • IndustryStandard@lemmy.worldOP
          611·
          7 days ago

          I would also not enjoy going waterboarding in Guantanamo bay.

          If you have a link to any respected human rights organisation claim of genocide I am all ears. If not you should try to convince them, not me.

          • Skiluros@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            86·
            7 days ago

            Why do you bring up waterboarding at Guantanamo Bay? Was a significant portion of an ethnic or national group sent to Guantanamo Bay? This has nothing to do with what we are discussing.

            There is sufficient evidence of mass scale ethnic-focused crimes in Xinjiang. This is even referenced in the report from Amnesty you cited, is it not?

            The use (or lack of use) of the term genocide does not negate these fact.

            You’re coming extremely close to tankie-level whitewashing mass scale CCP crimes targeted systematically at an ethnic group.

            Do you agree or disagree with the fact that the CCP has forced mass scale sterilisation of the Uighur community in Xinjiang?