When having to admit their fault the moderator started looking for arbitrary reasons to ban me. Such as not using the exact terminology of the Amnesty report. Which does not call it genocide.
The moderator is also watching user votes, and calling out people not voting with him.
I had been avoiding [email protected] for around a month. I had previously unsubscribed from it as it seemed to get a bit unhinged.
I had to go back there in the last few days for a post about Piefed default defederation list.
People pointed me out that [email protected] doesn’t moderate comments such as
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/20140833/
I reached out to the mod, he told me to tell the hexbear people to check their own comments as well https://hexbear.net/search?q=cockroaches&type=Comments&listingType=Local&page=1&sort=New
I found one comment equating democrats to cockroaches
https://hexbear.net/post/5850141/6412496
Maybe there needs to be another community to just report toxic users, with a diverse mod team, this two-way war (especially as both communities can’t talk to each other due to defederation/community ban) just seems turn into a long term conflict where all parts assume the worse of the other.
I am the user you quoted in the first quote. Feel free to use my username directly with quotes about tankies being roaches and degenerates.
I stand by what I said.
I am from Ukraine, originally from Donbas no less.
It is just and correct (in the dictionary sense) to use the term degenerate when refering to tankies.
The tankie roaches don’t speak any local languages, have never been to Ukraine (Donbas or otherwise) or even russia and claim any and all atrocities committed by the russians are a CIA conspiracy. I even had a degenerate tankie claim that there is no problem with speaking Ukrainian in the occupied territories (when there are russian propaganda video openly celebrating how they catch Ukrainian speakers and send them to torture basements).
How is this not degeneracy?
That piefed Hexbear defederation post is weird. They are basically arguing that defederating from Hexbear by default is not a block.
Devs should keep away from default blocks unless it is objectively illegal or spam. Imagine if the Lemmy devs started blacklisting sh.itjustworks by default. That would cause some outrage. But they see no problem doing it the other way around
The question boils down to: do you consider a default defederation list to be an inevitable block, or do you consider it a preset that can be easily changed afterwards, and should as admins should review their defederation list when setting up an instance anyway?
At first people thought it could not be avoided, and were relieved to learn it could easily be changed: https://lemmy.zip/post/47192425/21066707
For the context, what the change experience looks like for an admin
For screenshots and more details: https://wetshav.ing/comment/92409
The weirdest part of this ‘one-way federation’ drama is that it’s entirely self-inflicted. Why even run an allowlist if you’re not going to vet the instances you put on it?
Every time I see Hexbear mention .world it’s to call them Nazis, why on earth did they put piefed.world in their allowlist?
I don’t know. Seems like now they removed them, hopefully the whole thing is now settled.
A default block was what I assumed that meant. By default it is blocked, but it possible to unblock.
The major issue is that putting them on the blacklist by default: the admins need to make a conscious decision to unblock them. Which they will probably not do unless they agree with their views or enjoy their posts.
This gives easy plausible deniability to who wants to blacklist hexbear or lemmygrad. The partiality is far stronger than on Lemmy. Where we know the devs have certain political views but they do not force them upon anyone.
List of Piefed instances that currently defederate hexbear:
https://piefed.fediverse.observer/list
As you can see, instances defederating hexbear are instances managed by teams which were going to do so anyway, as they already did on Lemmy. I’m still waiting for an example of an instance that defederated hexbear “by mistake”.
Setting up an instance isn’t trivial, assuming that admins would revise the defederation list doesn’t seem realistic.
There are still a few instances that federate with hexbear, showing that the ‘baked in block’ is just a configuration change:
Hexbear’s post is weird, acting like a blocklist is the same as hardcoding a “1-way defederation” as they try to frame it. They are such scummy manipulators.
Hexbear lying? Unheard of! Next you’ll tell me they’ll just make shit up in favor of their favorite red colored hellhole.
What’s funny is that a few members from Hexbear will use one comment calling out how people defend China no matter what roaches, means that it was somehow a bigoted remark.Hexbear has double standards.
Edit: I retract my point.
The issue I had was more that that guy was calling people ‘degenerates’, I don’t like anybody calling people roaches, but calling people ‘degenerates’ is almost always the mark of someone being a fash. Hexbear has ‘degenerates’ in their slur filter, meanwhile it’s constantly in use on meanwhileongrad.
edit for the fash responding to me:
There is a beautiful irony that a genocide white-washing (“Bucha is BIA conspiracy!!!”) supporter of state capitalism, calls someone else facsist.
This is what I mean when I call tankies like you degenerates.
I will note that I use the term degenerate and roach only in the context of tankie scum.
I also love how after Blaze found a quote using the term cockroaches refering to Dems, you suddenly became OK with the term.
Hexbear should probably defederate from Lemmygrad then