Your original comment was about the UK overreaching and policing companies from outside the UK how to do things. You got a reply on how the gdpr does the same thing (please, no one actually implied the legislation itself starts sending out emails, have the basic decency to understand the implication that it’s the EU and UK through GDPR that are pursuing things legally).
It’s not possible for the EU to fine companies in non-EU countries. They could issue a fine but they have no power to enforce or collect the fine.
I don’t know why you seek to make the distinction between “fining” and “issuing a fine”, the point was the UK is not the only one trying to do it. Whether it’s successful or not is not the point. Also they can totally enforce the fine by restricting those businesses from doing business within their territory until they comply. I don’t know how you could get it more wrong.
the point was the UK is not the only one trying to do it
I don’t see any evidence of the EU trying to do with the GDPR what the UK is trying to do with the Online Safety Act.
they can totally enforce the fine by restricting those businesses from doing business within their territory until they comply
That’s sanctioning, not enforcing a fine.
And yes they can do that but that’s not what Ofcom is talking about. Ofcom have explicitly stated that foreign citizens have “duties” under UK law. The word “duty” has a very specific meaning in English law, in fact it’s really one of the most basic concepts. It means there is an obligation on someone and if that obligation is not fulfilled then courts have the power to take action.
Sanctioning a foreign citizen doesn’t imply an obligation. There can’t be an obligation because a foreign citizen, by definition, is not subject to English law. Ofcom is claiming that foreign citizens are subject to English law.
Convenient you’ve specifically not quoted the circumstance in which that should apply. This is companies which serve UK customers in the UK, the fact their servers are offshore and the company is offshore doesn’t matter, they’re doing business in the UK by being made available there and thus must be bound to those laws.
What are you talking about?! Apple was forced to follow EU regulations and allow side loading, they complied by only making it available in the EU, so the EU can tell a foreign company how to do business in its territory. “This is wrong” and you’re just spouting nonsense. If I want to do business in your country I need to follow your country’s regulations, this includes customer and worker protections.
Your original comment was about the UK overreaching and policing companies from outside the UK how to do things. You got a reply on how the gdpr does the same thing (please, no one actually implied the legislation itself starts sending out emails, have the basic decency to understand the implication that it’s the EU and UK through GDPR that are pursuing things legally).
I don’t know why you seek to make the distinction between “fining” and “issuing a fine”, the point was the UK is not the only one trying to do it. Whether it’s successful or not is not the point. Also they can totally enforce the fine by restricting those businesses from doing business within their territory until they comply. I don’t know how you could get it more wrong.
I don’t see any evidence of the EU trying to do with the GDPR what the UK is trying to do with the Online Safety Act.
That’s sanctioning, not enforcing a fine.
And yes they can do that but that’s not what Ofcom is talking about. Ofcom have explicitly stated that foreign citizens have “duties” under UK law. The word “duty” has a very specific meaning in English law, in fact it’s really one of the most basic concepts. It means there is an obligation on someone and if that obligation is not fulfilled then courts have the power to take action.
Sanctioning a foreign citizen doesn’t imply an obligation. There can’t be an obligation because a foreign citizen, by definition, is not subject to English law. Ofcom is claiming that foreign citizens are subject to English law.
LOL
Yeah man they have an obligation(duty) to uphold British law when dealing with British citizens, how’s that hard to grasp.
Let me get this straight, you’re claiming that non-UK citizens acting outside of the UK are subject to UK law?
If you are claiming what it seems like you’re claiming then it’s not difficult to grasp, it’s just wrong.
Convenient you’ve specifically not quoted the circumstance in which that should apply. This is companies which serve UK customers in the UK, the fact their servers are offshore and the company is offshore doesn’t matter, they’re doing business in the UK by being made available there and thus must be bound to those laws.
This is wrong.
This is wrong.
This is wrong.
What are you talking about?! Apple was forced to follow EU regulations and allow side loading, they complied by only making it available in the EU, so the EU can tell a foreign company how to do business in its territory. “This is wrong” and you’re just spouting nonsense. If I want to do business in your country I need to follow your country’s regulations, this includes customer and worker protections.
This is wrong. Apple isn’t a foreign company from the perspective of the EU. Their EU headquarters are in Cork:
https://www.apple.com/careers/us/work-at-apple/locations/cork.html
They also have offices in Munich, Prague, Copenhagen, Paris, Berlin, Stuttgart, Barcelona and Stockholm:
https://www.apple.com/careers/us/work-at-apple/locations.html