• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    8·
    1 day ago

    The lower left picture (and other knowledge of the groups) makes me think that the upcoming resistance will be led by trans and furry hackers/coders, etc. I hope they can organize. How sick would that be if they’re the ones responsible for taking down the fascists.

  • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
    131·
    2 days ago

    Yup, I’m a lifelong filthy anti-gun liberal.

    Can’t be anymore.

    It’s time to get armed. Wish it wasn’t, but the writing is on the wall. If Americans want to go on blowing each other’s heads off and having endless school shootings, well, that’s better than living under fascism, which is here, now.

    Gonna be a lot harder for them to do what they want if we’re all packing.

  • Cocopanda@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9·
    2 days ago

    Spent the weekend on private land blowing through thousands of rounds with my AR, Glock, and 20 caliber. I suggest everyone start going to the shooting range and get acclimated to your guns. It will be necessary soon enough. I believe that.

    • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      2 days ago

      I did the same with a buddy that just got his first pistol, which is believe he did due to the times. I hadn’t had my guns out to shoot since pre-pandemic, it was a good time to make sure everything is clean, lubed, and in working order.

      • Cocopanda@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 day ago

        Hell ya! Tell him welcome to the club! I need to take my 30-30 and 30.6 with me next time to train some folks on long distance shooting. My shoulders bruised up from firing 30 round clips in a few seconds tho. Too much fun on private land.

        • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 day ago

          You ever shoot .45-70? My father-in-law had a lever action Marlin chambered in that. That was the most my shoulder has ever hurt. I fired THREE rounds through it, and I was done for the rest of the day. My shoulder was bruised for a week. Holy crap. I’ve shot 30-06 before, I’ve shot .308. I’ve shot crappy old 12 guages with basically no cushion to the stock. Never experienced anything like that. Never again. Pretty sure he sold it after that one outing.

    • ShadowZone@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      2 days ago

      Knew it was Beau before I even clicked on it. Great little video series he did back then!

      “Only 3 kinds of people in the world: pro-gun, anti-gun and those who actually know how firearms work.”

      • Naloxone@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 day ago

        She doesn’t do it for me the way Beau did! She’s not bad, she just has a different way of delivering things that I don’t enjoy as much.

        • 0x0@lemmy.zipEnglish
          1·
          1 day ago

          She’s clearly reading a script, whereas he seemed to be talking without one.

  • SeductiveTortoise@piefed.socialEnglish
    581·
    3 days ago

    I know how to handle firearms and I’m somewhat able to hit a target. But oh my god do I not want to use any, for anything.

    • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceEnglish
      3512·
      3 days ago

      ideally, you won’t have to. Just living within a gun positive culture is pretty preventative of the bad things that could be directly done to you. otherwise, make a range buddy?

      • Zorque@lemmy.worldEnglish
        321·
        2 days ago

        Just living within a gun positive culture is pretty preventative of the bad things that could be directly done to you.

        Ha. I know this is the wrong community to laugh at this, but honestly it’s hilarious.

        It takes more than just being “Yeah guns!” to avoid violence between people. It takes a society where people don’t take each other for granted.

        Fear is a terrible demotivator for people looking to cause damage. At best they’ll be looking for ways to cause damage before you’d notice, before you’d ever be able to pull a gun.

        • Knightfox@lemmy.worldEnglish
          111·
          2 days ago

          I’ll play devil’s advocate here a bit, but living in a culture where guns are a constant does put limits on a lot of activity. It’s also 100% true to say that people looking to cause damage will do so regardless of repercussions and often in spite of them. In most ways I agree that gun reduction overall has a greater reduction in harm than gun availability. That said, when living in a society where anyone and everyone can have a gun it definitely impacts some of the decisions you make.

          I see youtube videos about people freaking out in traffic and getting out of their car to fight and my first thought is that they have no idea if the driver has a gun. The danger of gun culture for most people in that culture isn’t a random shooting at a school or mall, even if that’s what gets the news. The real danger of gun culture is getting into a minor argument or misunderstanding and someone shoots you for little to no reason. It doesn’t matter if they are going to go to jail for wrongful manslaughter or murder if you’re already dead.

          When you live in gun crazy society it for sure cranks down a certain amount of behavior amongst normal people. The problem inherent to this is that there are stupid people with guns who for some reason don’t think other people have them and engage in confrontations as if that’s the case.

        • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceEnglish
          3·
          2 days ago

          It takes more than just being “Yeah guns!” to avoid violence between people. It takes a society where people don’t take each other for granted.

          I usually really hate quote texting people but I just want to point how real this is. Yes, you’re correct. It needs both. Valuing both is what makes us leftist gun owners.

          As for the rest, I think the other guy who replied to you explained it way better than I can.

        • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceEnglish
          93·
          2 days ago

          that’s a good problem to have. it seems you guys have built your society right without all the insanity we’re dealing with in the US right now. take care of yourselves and eachother 👍

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
        93·
        2 days ago

        Just living within a gun positive culture

        Ah, yes. I’ve heard that Vibes-Based gun ownership is 50% more effective than Regular gun ownership.

        • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceEnglish
          36·
          2 days ago

          your entire existence is predicated by vibes and pretending it’s not shows just how unengaged with society you are. if you’d like to educate yourself, the entire history of the Black Panther movement is right there. there are places in America right now that ICE will not raid because of the viBeS indicating that they will be shot if they try.

          I know I can’t force you to use your brain but I’m sincerely inviting you to at least check yourself for a pulse.

    • Tayb@lemmy.worldEnglish
      27·
      2 days ago

      It takes a lot to realize that and exercise that restraint. You’re a good egg. With that being said, a paintball gun would have a low chance of self-harm, but they make coyote urine balls that smell terrible on impact. Just saying.

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.worldEnglish
        18·
        2 days ago

        And pepper balls, and jawbreakers.

        I’ll just point out that showing up to a hypothetical gun battle with only paint (or even pepper balls) is a bad idea. Cops and other criminals will undoubtedly act as if you’re holding a firearm anyway, even though you aren’t, and their guns can do unto you while you can’t do unto them. Tread wisely.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      167·
      2 days ago

      It is physically painful to watch the American Consumer sold on yet one more retail panacea for a structural social problem.

      “Oh, fascist government has you worried? Consider Amazon-brand AR-15s! Walmart is fully stocked with punji sticks and shovels! I think I can get a claymore mine off Temu (shop like a paranoid billionaire)!”

      • ronigami@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 day ago

        You can just 3d print them. It doesn’t have to be retail. Also btw, this attitude is what got us into this position.

      • electric_nan@lemmy.mlEnglish
        73·
        2 days ago

        Capitalists will sell us the ropes etc etc. Consuming guns is absolutely not “the answer”, but being armed, willing and able definitely is.

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          2 days ago

          being armed, willing organized and able definitely is

          Show me the left-wing militia and I’ll be a bit more excited about left-wing gun ownership.

          But ten-thousand monkeys with AR-15s does not a leftist movement make.

          • electric_nan@lemmy.mlEnglish
            2·
            2 days ago

            Organizing a left wing militia is a fast track to the grave. Under our current conditions, we can have leftist organizing, and we can have armed leftists, but explicitly organizing a leftist paramilitary force is going to be very difficult. Even orgs like the SRA are very cautious to not be perceived as such. That doesn’t mean there isn’t value in training leftists in basic firearms proficiency.

            • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              2 days ago

              Organizing a left wing militia is a fast track to the grave.

              Then there’s no point in owning a gun. You don’t have comrades. You aren’t operating under any kind of command structure. You don’t have a support network behind you. You don’t even know who to point your damned gun at.

              That doesn’t mean there isn’t value in training leftists in basic firearms proficiency.

              Training them through what organ? We just ruled out any kind of leftist armed organizing.

              • electric_nan@lemmy.mlEnglish
                2·
                2 days ago

                If that’s how you see it, that’s how you see it. I mentioned the SRA-- they are an “organ” that is training leftists in basic firearms proficiency. They aren’t going to give any “tactical” training under any official banner though. Leftists can get that training just like anyone else, by paying some CHUD if they want to. There are also a lot of anarchists out there who organize (less formally) firearms trainings. I know because I have participated in some. My attitude is that if ever a time should come where you find yourself needing to hold a gun, it will be a lot better if it isn’t your first time.