• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      It is physically painful to watch the American Consumer sold on yet one more retail panacea for a structural social problem.

      “Oh, fascist government has you worried? Consider Amazon-brand AR-15s! Walmart is fully stocked with punji sticks and shovels! I think I can get a claymore mine off Temu (shop like a paranoid billionaire)!”

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        You can just 3d print them. It doesn’t have to be retail. Also btw, this attitude is what got us into this position.

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        Capitalists will sell us the ropes etc etc. Consuming guns is absolutely not “the answer”, but being armed, willing and able definitely is.

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          being armed, willing organized and able definitely is

          Show me the left-wing militia and I’ll be a bit more excited about left-wing gun ownership.

          But ten-thousand monkeys with AR-15s does not a leftist movement make.

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            Organizing a left wing militia is a fast track to the grave. Under our current conditions, we can have leftist organizing, and we can have armed leftists, but explicitly organizing a leftist paramilitary force is going to be very difficult. Even orgs like the SRA are very cautious to not be perceived as such. That doesn’t mean there isn’t value in training leftists in basic firearms proficiency.

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              Organizing a left wing militia is a fast track to the grave.

              Then there’s no point in owning a gun. You don’t have comrades. You aren’t operating under any kind of command structure. You don’t have a support network behind you. You don’t even know who to point your damned gun at.

              That doesn’t mean there isn’t value in training leftists in basic firearms proficiency.

              Training them through what organ? We just ruled out any kind of leftist armed organizing.

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                If that’s how you see it, that’s how you see it. I mentioned the SRA-- they are an “organ” that is training leftists in basic firearms proficiency. They aren’t going to give any “tactical” training under any official banner though. Leftists can get that training just like anyone else, by paying some CHUD if they want to. There are also a lot of anarchists out there who organize (less formally) firearms trainings. I know because I have participated in some. My attitude is that if ever a time should come where you find yourself needing to hold a gun, it will be a lot better if it isn’t your first time.