Even more reason such a weak candidate can’t be allowed to win the primary. Putting forward such a weak platform and demanding the base hold their noses didn’t work in 2024, so why would it work again? Why leave things up the chance when every vote supposedly counts? 🙃
I think it’s one of those cases where whoever gets the nominated, the right wing agitprop machine will work overtime to throw wedges into the opposition and fins reasons for people to be Righteously Mad.
So there has to be some space for disagreement and common goals. Not ‘enemy of my enemy is my friend’ but at least ‘we are broadly going in the same direction and we can at least move the Overton window’.
It is an iterative game. Newsome, asshole or not, makes space for a slightly less right wing asshole next time. Take the long view.
That’s such a losers mentality. People need someone to excite them, which is what this fascist reject is trying to performatively emulate. The Dems lost because they demanded people vote against rather than for, and people saw little hope in that.
I do not share common goals with Newsom, because California Dems like him only know how to make laws that help the rich seem progressive. I am not going in the same direction as him because he’s explicitly leaving us trans people behind. Newsom would a degenerative iteration in every sense, even more so that he showed his true colors when he tried to join Trump.
Dems embracing him makes me even more hopeless for the future. Y’all just don’t get that moving further right and never fundamentally changing is what got us here.
I disagree. Have you been following what’s going on in England? Labour is now as anti-trans as Conservative, and not just on sports, and public opinion has shifted with it. History suggests winning the election will shift the overton window further right, since it will entrench the party as needing to be anti-trans in order to be considered electable.
That’s how you got trump. If you think a miracle candidate is just going to pop up, I think that’s wishful thinking; you walk the needle to where you want it to go.
No, that’s not how I got Trump. That’s how the Democratic establishment got us Trump. They got their choice of “miracle candidate” and ran their choice of campaign their way. They even got their choice of opponent thanks to Hillary’s “pied piper” campaign to pump up Trump. They orchestrated the whole damn thing, so fuck you for blaming me. The only thing you got right is that it actually would take a fucking miracle for the establishment to pull their heads out of their asses and pick a real candidate.
Newsom cares about being President. That’s his entire moral core. Just like Hillary, Biden, Obama, and Harris, being president is an ego trip and serves no end but self gratification. That’s why we fell to fascism. If you think that staying on the same path that got us here will get us out, then it’s you who got us Trump and, more importantly, you who will get us the next Trump
No, I’m saying that writing is “fuck America” might as well be like writing in Micky mouse. Its performative bullshit that changes nothing.
Do what you want. But wanting change while thinking that writing a phrase on a ballot is going to change anything screams slacktivism and the yearning for internet “'atta-boys” with internet strangers.
You can make a better impact with your time, if your passionate about wanting something better, do something worthwhile.
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They count those as a vote for Trump. :)
Even more reason such a weak candidate can’t be allowed to win the primary. Putting forward such a weak platform and demanding the base hold their noses didn’t work in 2024, so why would it work again? Why leave things up the chance when every vote supposedly counts? 🙃
I think it’s one of those cases where whoever gets the nominated, the right wing agitprop machine will work overtime to throw wedges into the opposition and fins reasons for people to be Righteously Mad.
So there has to be some space for disagreement and common goals. Not ‘enemy of my enemy is my friend’ but at least ‘we are broadly going in the same direction and we can at least move the Overton window’.
It is an iterative game. Newsome, asshole or not, makes space for a slightly less right wing asshole next time. Take the long view.
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It’s impossible to fond put what life would have been like with Trump in 2020 but… I suspect worse.
Sucks.
That’s such a losers mentality. People need someone to excite them, which is what this fascist reject is trying to performatively emulate. The Dems lost because they demanded people vote against rather than for, and people saw little hope in that.
I do not share common goals with Newsom, because California Dems like him only know how to make laws that help the rich seem progressive. I am not going in the same direction as him because he’s explicitly leaving us trans people behind. Newsom would a degenerative iteration in every sense, even more so that he showed his true colors when he tried to join Trump.
Dems embracing him makes me even more hopeless for the future. Y’all just don’t get that moving further right and never fundamentally changing is what got us here.
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If they’re the same, you might as well vote for him to move the Overton window and make space for the next one.
I disagree. Have you been following what’s going on in England? Labour is now as anti-trans as Conservative, and not just on sports, and public opinion has shifted with it. History suggests winning the election will shift the overton window further right, since it will entrench the party as needing to be anti-trans in order to be considered electable.
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51545-where-does-the-british-public-stand-on-transgender-rights-in-202425
Yeah, it’s a problem, but it’s a problem to address during party elections, not the general. It sucks.
Also getting out and throwing some bricks can’t hurt.
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Save us the trouble and just don’t show up if your going to throw.
If Newsom is the candidate, the race will have already been thrown.
That’s how you got trump. If you think a miracle candidate is just going to pop up, I think that’s wishful thinking; you walk the needle to where you want it to go.
No, that’s not how I got Trump. That’s how the Democratic establishment got us Trump. They got their choice of “miracle candidate” and ran their choice of campaign their way. They even got their choice of opponent thanks to Hillary’s “pied piper” campaign to pump up Trump. They orchestrated the whole damn thing, so fuck you for blaming me. The only thing you got right is that it actually would take a fucking miracle for the establishment to pull their heads out of their asses and pick a real candidate.
Newsom cares about being President. That’s his entire moral core. Just like Hillary, Biden, Obama, and Harris, being president is an ego trip and serves no end but self gratification. That’s why we fell to fascism. If you think that staying on the same path that got us here will get us out, then it’s you who got us Trump and, more importantly, you who will get us the next Trump
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No, I’m saying that writing is “fuck America” might as well be like writing in Micky mouse. Its performative bullshit that changes nothing.
Do what you want. But wanting change while thinking that writing a phrase on a ballot is going to change anything screams slacktivism and the yearning for internet “'atta-boys” with internet strangers.
You can make a better impact with your time, if your passionate about wanting something better, do something worthwhile.
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Oh okay so you support the fascism then
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