Even more reason such a weak candidate can’t be allowed to win the primary. Putting forward such a weak platform and demanding the base hold their noses didn’t work in 2024, so why would it work again? Why leave things up the chance when every vote supposedly counts? 🙃
I think it’s one of those cases where whoever gets the nominated, the right wing agitprop machine will work overtime to throw wedges into the opposition and fins reasons for people to be Righteously Mad.
So there has to be some space for disagreement and common goals. Not ‘enemy of my enemy is my friend’ but at least ‘we are broadly going in the same direction and we can at least move the Overton window’.
It is an iterative game. Newsome, asshole or not, makes space for a slightly less right wing asshole next time. Take the long view.
That didn’t end up working with Biden, though. His victory didn’t push the overton window left. Under his watch, we had COVID denialism, conspiracy theories, liberals who thought Trump was the answer to cheap eggs, and an attempted coup.
I disagree. Have you been following what’s going on in England? Labour is now as anti-trans as Conservative, and not just on sports, and public opinion has shifted with it. History suggests winning the election will shift the overton window further right, since it will entrench the party as needing to be anti-trans in order to be considered electable.
Yes, I agree and I will vote in the primary. If another candidate wins it, great. But this is where I’ll stand if the electorate or the DNC chooses Newsom for the general.
They count those as a vote for Trump. :)
Even more reason such a weak candidate can’t be allowed to win the primary. Putting forward such a weak platform and demanding the base hold their noses didn’t work in 2024, so why would it work again? Why leave things up the chance when every vote supposedly counts? 🙃
I think it’s one of those cases where whoever gets the nominated, the right wing agitprop machine will work overtime to throw wedges into the opposition and fins reasons for people to be Righteously Mad.
So there has to be some space for disagreement and common goals. Not ‘enemy of my enemy is my friend’ but at least ‘we are broadly going in the same direction and we can at least move the Overton window’.
It is an iterative game. Newsome, asshole or not, makes space for a slightly less right wing asshole next time. Take the long view.
That didn’t end up working with Biden, though. His victory didn’t push the overton window left. Under his watch, we had COVID denialism, conspiracy theories, liberals who thought Trump was the answer to cheap eggs, and an attempted coup.
It’s impossible to fond put what life would have been like with Trump in 2020 but… I suspect worse.
Sucks.
Must be nice having a Democrat who hasn’t thrown you under the bus :)
A Trump presidency and a Newsom presidency would be identical for me, so in a way, either vote is a vote or Trump.
If they’re the same, you might as well vote for him to move the Overton window and make space for the next one.
I disagree. Have you been following what’s going on in England? Labour is now as anti-trans as Conservative, and not just on sports, and public opinion has shifted with it. History suggests winning the election will shift the overton window further right, since it will entrench the party as needing to be anti-trans in order to be considered electable.
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51545-where-does-the-british-public-stand-on-transgender-rights-in-202425
Yeah, it’s a problem, but it’s a problem to address during party elections, not the general. It sucks.
Also getting out and throwing some bricks can’t hurt.
Yes, I agree and I will vote in the primary. If another candidate wins it, great. But this is where I’ll stand if the electorate or the DNC chooses Newsom for the general.