There is a recent desant of Russian trolls attacking Ukraine, with some of them even blatantly saying they support Putin and some others trying to put into doubt evidence of Russian crimes (kidnapping children etc.)

I have been banned from world by @[email protected] for calling one of them out. Also both of my comments, the one in the screenshot and another one where I explain to another user that he is arguing with paid Russian troll have been removed.

  • anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 个月前

    Accusing a user of being a paid troll account is against the rules in most instances, even if you somehow have strong evidence for it.

    It’s an unfalsifiable claim and is frequently used as a way to harass another user over a disagreement.

    YDI.

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      4 个月前

      It is enough to look at this user commenting history to substantiate the claim.

      If you see a nazi, say “nazi”

      If you see a Russian troll, say “Russian troll”.

      • anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        4 个月前

        Like I said, its not about having evidence or not. It’s a disingenuous way of harassing someone for having an opinion you disagree with.

        If the opinion is a rule-breaking one, then report it. If it isn’t, find a more constructive way to deal with your disagreement.

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          Too many people (myself included) learned to focus on the person, instead of the idea.

          That leads to sophist arguments (“you’re a troll”), rather than searching for the truth that lies somewhere between different viewpoints.

          It’s not easy to keep in mind and to find ways to stay on the subject.

          • HubertManne@piefed.social
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            4 个月前

            not to mention if you look at the comment history and you see nazi or troll or such then just block.

            • Deceptichum@quokk.au
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              No, if you see a nazi or troll call it out so that administration can remove it and keep the community healthy. Do not turn a blind eye to a fucking nazi bar.

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                4 个月前

                Im sorry but im not that nice. I want to block him till the administration deals with his account and he makes an alt I have to then block.

      • Evono@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        The issue is, you just broke rules too.

        Next time.

        Just report him or say something more civil. But honestly if you see a rule breaker just report him.

        It’s like kinda like real life you don’t deal with criminals the justical system in this case mods and admins do.

      • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
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        4 个月前

        Being a paid troll is one thing. If I see someone spreading pro fascist propaganda, I wouldn’t call them paid, but I would absolutely call them out on promoting fascist propaganda

      • Avatar of Vengeance@lemmy.ml
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        That’s interesting, because when I say “Nazi”, you say “Russian troll”. Maybe you have your favorite Nazis after all?

      • Getitupinyerstuffin'@lemmy.world
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        Brother, this isnt the sludge at the bottom of the internet, this is the hardened nastiness under the sludge. These people are the highschool drop outs that disappeared from everyday society. Their weight became so obese they couldn’t face life and they started collecting “disability” because their weight/gluttony got so out of control.