I’m going to be in the market for an electric car in the next year or two… I was considering an Ioniq as an option but now I’m not so sure. I’m having trouble finding any EV that doesn’t have a massive monitor in place of buttons, doesn’t have some kind of subscription, and isn’t a privacy nightmare. Not sure what I’ll do when the time comes to actually buy…
The one I got has capactive buttons for a lot of things and physical buttons for temperature control/flow as well as volume. It still has 5 subscriptions, which you can opt out of and “disable” the connected services entirely, that said I am unsure if it truly disables it.
I instead opted for the mobile app remote start subscription and using home assistant to control it with the API to prevent having to use their awful app which also requires full precise location access to run.
Fun thing is I was considering Ioniq 5 and VW ID4 at the time and this article + the recent VW charging for throttle made me a lot happier with my purchase choice. Subaru still has an awful privacy policy but at least its slightly better than most.
Yeah I considered it. That said I use the home assistant integration to make my car charge at slowest speed needed to timely charge it overnight for better bsttery health and I have it schedule remote start at 4:55 only when I am at work and the temperature is extremely hot or cold. Those smarter things has made me a little happier with the loss of privacy.
Yeah I read Toyota made them combined in modern cars. Toyota also designed a lot with this car so I passed on this for now. If the convenient stuff is ever gone I may opt for it.
I’m going to be in the market for an electric car in the next year or two… I was considering an Ioniq as an option but now I’m not so sure. I’m having trouble finding any EV that doesn’t have a massive monitor in place of buttons, doesn’t have some kind of subscription, and isn’t a privacy nightmare. Not sure what I’ll do when the time comes to actually buy…
This is part of why I’m keeping my ICE car for as long as possible.
Companies have gone insane with greed over EVs and I will not participate.
Nothing like this with my Leaf, if you can live with a chademo connector.
The one I got has capactive buttons for a lot of things and physical buttons for temperature control/flow as well as volume. It still has 5 subscriptions, which you can opt out of and “disable” the connected services entirely, that said I am unsure if it truly disables it.
I instead opted for the mobile app remote start subscription and using home assistant to control it with the API to prevent having to use their awful app which also requires full precise location access to run.
Fun thing is I was considering Ioniq 5 and VW ID4 at the time and this article + the recent VW charging for throttle made me a lot happier with my purchase choice. Subaru still has an awful privacy policy but at least its slightly better than most.
There are usually a few fuses you can pull that disable a lot of the connected services.
Yeah I considered it. That said I use the home assistant integration to make my car charge at slowest speed needed to timely charge it overnight for better bsttery health and I have it schedule remote start at 4:55 only when I am at work and the temperature is extremely hot or cold. Those smarter things has made me a little happier with the loss of privacy.
I guess I just got lucky, the added features didn’t run off the same fuse as the telemetry part. Which is kinda strange.
Yeah I read Toyota made them combined in modern cars. Toyota also designed a lot with this car so I passed on this for now. If the convenient stuff is ever gone I may opt for it.