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    11 months ago

    Bottom line? We’re already not enjoying democracy. It’s all corrupted. Look at the supreme court’s ethics committee, out of control lobbying, that one politician with the gold bricks, the other politician with the sex trafficking underaged girls, it’s all fucked up. Y’all are enjoying this? I’m not.

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      Y’all are enjoying this? I’m not.

      No. But I enjoy this more than fascism, and likely all of those things you listed will get measurably worse under a second term of Trump armed with Project 2025.

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        Yeah. It would definitely become worse. But hopefully a revolution will come of it ( I would certainly participate in the resistance). And if not, and the general population prefers the fascism, I’ve already got my euthanasia go bag.

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          So your entire hope is based on the idea that “This is currently fascism, and has been fascism for decades now, but if we let it get just a LITTLE bit worse, then The Revolution will totally rise up and overthrow this whole system!”?

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            Look Pug, I’ve given my life a time limit as it is, y’all either get it together you you don’t. I’m not finna deal with this for longer than another decade bruh.

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                So we hitting the gun store & shooting range or what? Don’t get complacent about your freedom now, we got work to do. For the next decade at least.

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                  Some of us aren’t under the impression that “A civil war that will kill millions and has no guarantee of success rather than handing over absolute power to a fascist government” is better than “A milquetoast centrist for a few years”.

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          But hopefully a revolution will come of it

          Hopefully? What a batshit insane notion. “Yeah, I hope my friends and family die in a civil war fighting fascists.” We don’t have to go to war, but if people act like they’re entitled to the “perfect” candidate earning their vote and are unwilling to make compromises, then Trump and the Heritage Foundation have already won.

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      “I’m not enjoying this on an abstract level, therefore, let the worst candidate win and make everything even worse. Fuck these other, poor people who actually struggle to get by on what meager assistance they receive. They can get less, so long as I don’t have to make a choice.”

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        Maybe the fascism will motivate change quicker than this status quo bullshit.

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          Oh? You mean like how fascism motivated change in Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany?

          Have fun in the fucking camps. I’ll probably off myself before that.

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            I hope not. You seem to understand what’s at stake, rather than believing beyond all sense and reason that there will be another democratic election post-Project 2025.

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              Don’t worry. I promised myself I wouldn’t off myself after my last attempt until I truly saw no way out. I’ll wait 'til the Gestapo are knocking at the doors. Til then, I’ll be doing what little I can to get milquetoast centrists elected, because as much as I’d like something better, I’m also under no illusion that making things worse will give some sort of ‘do-over’.

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                This post has been wild. I honestly never ran into left-wing accelerationists until today.

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                  Count yourself lucky. Lmao, one of my first political experiences online was quarreling with a left-wing accelerationist in the late 2000s. Wild stuff. They’ve only multiplied, unfortunately, as a result of the increasing dysfunction of the US political system and the dying promises of neoliberalism in general.

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            Lol you and I have the same plan if the revolution doesn’t take place