Minister: "Burkas and niqabs are not suitable for school"
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A debate is erupting around Islamic face coverings in Finland's educational institutions.

A debate is erupting around Islamic face coverings in Finland’s educational institutions.

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  • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
    62·
    3 days ago

    But what really grinds my gears about (other) leftists defending this kind of religious expression is, this isn’t something women choose.

    How do you know that?

    They’re forced to and groomed from young age to cover themselves.

    That’s… kind of how all parenting works? You could legit say “they’re forced to and groomed from young age to X” and replace X with anything you want and it’ll work so you’re not really saying much.

    This is just plain old misogyny that has no place in modern societies.

    Yeah here’s the thing: Freedom of conscience means freedom of conscience, even when you don’t like that conscience. If misogyny is reason enough for you to take a sledgehammer to this core pillar of democratic society then go ahead, but know that fascists can use that same sledgehammer against whatever beliefs you have that they don’t like.

    • Dasus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      49·
      3 days ago

      How do you know that?

      Try wearing a headcovering for an entire day and I’m sure you’ll figure it out.

      Hijab, sure, easy. But a burka or a niqab? Nah, ain’t no-one choosing that without years of conditioning.

      You could legit say “they’re forced to and groomed from young age to X” and replace X with anything you want and it’ll work so you’re not really saying much.

      “They’re forced from a young age to respect differences and think for themselves and groomed not to behave in a way that limits the freedom of others.”

      Yeah, totally the same, isn’t it? /s

      “Taking a sledgehammer against a core pillar of a democratic society” what are you talking about? You think a code democratic principle is being broken here by limiting burkas and niqabs?

      Sure, buddy

      This you?