Follow-up video to https://lemmy.world/post/32690521

Spoiler alert: the main reason he says the experience “hasn’t been great” is because shortly before posting the video his Linux install mysteriously broke and he had no idea why. Therefore, he recommended dual-booting Windows just in case.

Cue sea of comments explaining that the reason for the error he was getting was that Windows screwed up his bootloader (i.e. the problem was caused by dual-booting to begin with, LOL).

  • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
    112·
    3 days ago

    As much as I fucking cant stand him, I have to say… in that case, Most new users would do exactly what he did.

    Computer users always get hit with big ominous warning messages that amount to nothing 99.9% of the time. IIRC the reason something happened that time wasnt because Linus ignored the warning message, but because of a known bug in that version of the distro that was known about and wasnt fixed in the installer for months, until the video came out, that caused the DE to be removed when uninstalling something else… Which is just pants on head and should have been fixed long before the video came out.

    Besides, and I say this as a non-technical non-sysadmin linux user… the overwhelming amount of tech support for linux doesnt encourage knowing what commands do, it encourages copy and pasting… because almost all the tech support solutions I’ve ever found basically amount to “if you have X problem, copy Y command into terminal to fix it” with no explanation on why it works, just that it (hopefully) does.

    • grue@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      82·
      3 days ago

      Computer users always get hit with big ominous warning messages that amount to nothing 99.9% of the time.

      This is yet another instance of blaming Linux for Windows’ bad behavior.

      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
        13·
        3 days ago

        He said, on a topic, about a big ominous message on linux, that would have done nothing at all… if it wasnt for the bug known for months in the distro, that they refused to fix until it got bad press from a popular youtube video.

        But yes, its windows fault. /s

        • grue@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          61·
          3 days ago

          Right, that’s my point: when Linux gives a big ominous message, it’s because it’s actually important. If the distro hadn’t had that bug, it wouldn’t have given the big ominous message.

          Remember, the bug wasn’t the warning message itself. The bug was removing the DE when installing Steam, which the message correctly warned about. The warning message was appropriate and warranted.

          It is Windows, and only Windows, that mis-trains users to ignore warnings because it issues so many spurious ones for benign situations.

          • dontmindmehere@programming.devEnglish
            1·
            3 days ago

            imo the linus disaster was an unfortunate combination of

            • the unpatched pop_os issue
            • linus going TLDR (reasonable but that’s on him)
            • apt messages generally being long
            • linus not having a frame of reference on which long message is good (apt upgrade listing 50 updates) vs which are bad (apt install saying his DE is about to be nuked)
            • and yes, him playing it up for the video, and willingly ignoring his gut feeling that typing “yes, do as I say” can’t be doing anything good

            in the end i still think it was kinda irresponsible for linus to publish that, but the whole premise of the video was them going blindly into linux (which i also disagree but whatever)