It’s not a meaningless term for the people who use it as a pejorative. For them, it encompasses everything they hate, however nebulous that set of things may be.
Nah, for me it’s meaning is a very specific group of right wingers. I also hate every other type of right winger too, so it’s only encompassing one portion of my hate.
Welfare and some nationalized industry ≠ socialism. Not even in the slightest. Besides socialism is not achievable through the systems built by and for the bourgeois. Why would they let us vote them out of existence lol?
You can’t trend towards socialism. You either are or are not a proletarian state.
“Liberal” without either putting “Social” or “Economic” in front of it, is a meaningless term.
It’s not a meaningless term for the people who use it as a pejorative. For them, it encompasses everything they hate, however nebulous that set of things may be.
Nah, for me it’s meaning is a very specific group of right wingers. I also hate every other type of right winger too, so it’s only encompassing one portion of my hate.
Hate towards social liberals by lefties seems like a really successful astroturf perpetrated by the right.
Two groups who should very much be allies are not and it feels like it’s by design
To you the word liberal describes right wingers?
Yes and this is normal amongst leftists. Liberals support capitalism no?
Liberals generally support policies that trend towards socialism.
Are you sure you’re not thinking of libertarians?
Welfare and some nationalized industry ≠ socialism. Not even in the slightest. Besides socialism is not achievable through the systems built by and for the bourgeois. Why would they let us vote them out of existence lol?
You can’t trend towards socialism. You either are or are not a proletarian state.
You can absolutely trend towards socialism. Economic systems are a spectrum.
Forget it Jake, it’s lemmy.ml-town
Show me a country, other than chile bc we know how that went after, which has achieved socialism through voting.
I mean, Webster’s disagrees with you.