I roll my eyes whenever any of these diet comparisons come up, because comparing a vegan diet to an omnivorous diet doesn’t really take into account diet quality, which is likely a far more significant factor in health outcomes than what particular diet cult you join. An omnivore who exclusively gets all their food from the local organic farmer’s market is going to have better health outcomes than the vegan with a pantry full of oreos.
This is the only study, a stunt case study, I’ve found that actually does a serious comparison of different diet compositions. 5800 calories over feeding, 3 weeks, 3 month washout - vegan, low fat, keto
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I actually read that study. And I seriously doubt that you did. I bet. You just glanced over the end result. Thought it aligned with your views, and called it a day.
It’s probably the most meaningless study I’ve ever seen.
You cannot draw any meaningful conclusion from it at all. Mostly, because they used, one singular. Test subject.
I’ll say that again. They used 1 person. That’s it. No control group. No ethnical diversity among test subjects. Just one guy.
Just to point out how incredibly useless that is. When they do studies on various methods of working out. They use hundreds if not thousands of people. Men and women. And in these studies. You will see, that some individuals, lose muscle mass. They do the same thing as everyone else. 99% of participants gain muscle mass of various degrees, but 1% will lose muscle mass.
Imagine if your study was done, on just that 1 person that lost muscle mass. Are you going to conclude that lifting weights will result in negative gains?
I actually read that study. And I seriously doubt that you did. I bet. You just glanced over the end result. Thought it aligned with your views, and called it a day.
You actually READ the study? AND somehow missed my 500 word writeup on it? Or you read my writeup and thought I wrote it from pure imagination? Why not give grace to someone trying to have a dialog and extend the benefit of the doubt? Why the immediate hostility?
proof I read the case study
I’ll say that again. They used 1 person. That’s it. No control group. No ethnical diversity among test subjects. Just one guy.
Yes, that is what case study means. Also… i called it a stunt case study, but it is the only serious comparison of dietary composition I’ve seen.
Since you READ the study, how do you account for waist circumference reduction on a hypercaloric ketogenic diet? Do you not find it inline with the carbohydrate insulin model of obesity? After all, this is exactly how Diabulimia works
[Paper] A case study of overfeeding 3 different diets - 2021
This is the only study, a stunt case study, I’ve found that actually does a serious comparison of different diet compositions. 5800 calories over feeding, 3 weeks, 3 month washout - vegan, low fat, keto
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That was interesting. Thank you for sharing!
Any time! I’m on lemmy for the good ideas and conversations.
As someone who doesn’t have a clear opinion on this yet, I love Lemmy because of you people. There are very few anonymous places where such productive and respectful discussions can be observed and it really helps a lot. You guys are awesome.
I actually read that study. And I seriously doubt that you did. I bet. You just glanced over the end result. Thought it aligned with your views, and called it a day.
It’s probably the most meaningless study I’ve ever seen.
You cannot draw any meaningful conclusion from it at all. Mostly, because they used, one singular. Test subject.
I’ll say that again. They used 1 person. That’s it. No control group. No ethnical diversity among test subjects. Just one guy.
Just to point out how incredibly useless that is. When they do studies on various methods of working out. They use hundreds if not thousands of people. Men and women. And in these studies. You will see, that some individuals, lose muscle mass. They do the same thing as everyone else. 99% of participants gain muscle mass of various degrees, but 1% will lose muscle mass.
Imagine if your study was done, on just that 1 person that lost muscle mass. Are you going to conclude that lifting weights will result in negative gains?
You actually READ the study? AND somehow missed my 500 word writeup on it? Or you read my writeup and thought I wrote it from pure imagination? Why not give grace to someone trying to have a dialog and extend the benefit of the doubt? Why the immediate hostility?
proof I read the case study
Yes, that is what case study means. Also… i called it a stunt case study, but it is the only serious comparison of dietary composition I’ve seen.
Since you READ the study, how do you account for waist circumference reduction on a hypercaloric ketogenic diet? Do you not find it inline with the carbohydrate insulin model of obesity? After all, this is exactly how Diabulimia works