Thank you everyone, this was just a Devil’s advocate. The Kraken released a tentacle, it will now retract. With everything going on, it’s good to drop a stone in the pond every now and then. Love you all! 🤍


I do however, believe that his ethics are flexible, as long as it contributes to his main goal: Going to Mars. 

Do not see him as the Satan, nor God. He's a werewolf, shapeshifter. He'll turn into whatever person he needs to be in order to reach his goal.

USA: You have a Three Body Problem *(World: We already know what's happening and are trying to guide)*~~~
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    Reality is not a stage. Real world actions have real consequences.

    Even if it is a character, he thinks playing it out in real life is an acceptable thing to do and does it. If you express facism you are a fascist. Same bad.

    A narrow focus on mars at all cost says much more about the other parts of his narcissism and general intelligence.

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      I agree. Thing is, I think they don’t. People like Elon see it all as a sort of game, a simulation, a thing to ‘win’. It’s a form of psychosis/dissociation I think.

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          That is an interpretation, not my intent (nor, I believe, effect). It is more about shining a spotlight on something. The reactions have been very interesting; some purely emotional, some very insightful, others in between.

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    The thing is that if you’re acting exactly like a Nazi while in a position of massive power it doesn’t really matter whether or not in your heart of hearts it’s part of a 5 dimensional chess game to get humans on Mars. Also, I don’t think rampaging through the civil service with a chainsaw is going to get us to Mars.

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      This.

      I don’t think that faking to be a Nazi and risking to plundge the world into chaos and terror for personal gain is any better than actually being a Nazi.

      It might even be worse, tbh, because an actual Nazi at least thinks that following their evil twisted ideology is doing good some how. A fake Nazi totally knows that what they are doing is evil but accepts the damage they knowingly do for personal gain.

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    “He’s not that bad, he’s only actively choosing to be a nazi in order to reach his own selfish goals”

    I would argue this would make him worse than he seems.

    Musk isn’t taking you to mars with him, no matter how much you try to fellate his ego.

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      I don’t think that’s fair to say, there’s certainly degrees to ethics, everything is gray.

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        If you can throw out “your” “ethics”, your deeply-held beliefs about how the world works and should be and what is good and what isn’t, just like that, and switch to whatever is beneficial to you right now, they’re not “ethics”, they’re decoration.

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          Well said. Some boundaries should never be crossed intentionally. My thought is that there is simply too little regard for the collateral.

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    He’s a low IQ silver spoon narcissistic pedo piece of subhuman garbage. He’s always been that. He will always be that.

    Your attempt at apologetics on his behalf makes you pretty fuckin questionable too.

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    sounds a lot like “the ends justify the means” and considering his nazi salute I think he still very much ‘as bad as he seems’ if not worse considering his power and influence

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    If he was playing a character on TV, then sure. If he’s playing a character in real life, where everything he says and does have consequences for other people, no. He has to take responsibility for his character’s actions.

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      That description has gotten a really negative connotation because of how abused it is. I guess the description does match, yes.

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      his ethics are lacking, like…nonexistent.

      his morals are depraved and twisted. I suppose that could be miscommunicated as “flexible”.