• elucubra@sopuli.xyz
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      2 days ago

      I’m not judging women, I’m drawing red lines. I’m stating my preferences in dating situations. I also don’t like unkempt women for dating purposes, or overly tattooed, or too far right wing, or religious zealots, etc…

      I imagine you have some standards?

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          Of course it is judging, everyone judges. You are doing so right now with those comments.

          People are allowed to have preferences. And too much make-up is indicative of having a fake personality. So I stay clear of those kinds of people as well.

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            And too much make-up is indicative of having a fake personality.

            It’s really not. Women wear makeup for all kinds of reasons. It’s really nobody else’s business but their own.

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            too much make-up is indicative of having a fake personality

            … or, you know, makeup is fun and we use it for self-expression. Jesus christ.

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          Descriptive. If you reread, i’m stating what ** I** find attractive.

          Anybody is free to do whatever they like as long as they don’t harm others, or cause an objective harm to society.

          Within those limits you may do as you please, and I’ll defend your right to, but I don’t have to like it.

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            22 hours ago

            Commenting in discussions about makeup, to tell wearers of it that your dick doesn’t get hard for them if they were their make up a certain way, is a very weird thing to do.

            Do you think people who wear makeup are doing it just for you and your pleasure, but as some are doing it ‘wrong’ you need to step in and correct them?

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              22 hours ago

              Sheesh, this is getting tiring!

              I’M NOT TELLING ANYBODY TO DO OR NOT DO ANYTHING! I’M NOT JUDGING! I’M SAYING THAT I LIKE CERTAIN THINGS, AND DON’T LIKE CERTAIN OTHERS.

              If I’m not attracted to furries, am I being a bigot?

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                21 hours ago

                If you choose to go into furry spaces/discussions just to tell furries that you aren’t sexually attracted to them… yeah, that does kinda make you a bigot.

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      I think that the real sexism is in it being the norm that women have to paint their faces in order to be able to partake in society, lest they are deemed ‘unkept’.

      i know some people delight in adhering to the rule, like many moslimas choosing to wear a headscarf. Or tradwifes seeking their submissive role in the family.

      I’m not judging them if they do, but I feel the mold that is the norm should not go unquestioned.

      However you can’t go and criticize men for having an aesthetical preference, whilst championing the women’s right to that preference, that’s hypocritical.

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        I think that the real sexism is in it being the norm that women have to paint their faces in order to be able to partake in society, lest they are deemed ‘unkept’.

        This is largely dependent on what society you belong to. I’m a woman and I go out bare-faced all the time. There’s nothing wrong with that. And when I choose to wear makeup, I have fun with it, because I’m doing it for self-expression, not to be socially accepted. A lot of women are like me in this way.

        However you can’t go and criticize men for having an aesthetical preference, whilst championing the women’s right to that preference, that’s hypocritical.

        Both of these still pertain to women’s aesthetics. Men having an opinion about women’s appearances is not the same as women having an an opinion about their own appearance. There’s no hypocrisy here.

        Basically men’s opinions on what women choose to do with their makeup are largely irrelevant and unwanted. Our faces, our choice. Men can have opinions about their own faces and aesthetics.

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          Exactly, living in a culture where makeup is expected on women, I refuse to wear it in professional contexts as a feminist choice. When I go out I may throw on a dark red lip and a smokey eye with no foundation because I feel like it looks great on me.

          I think it’s all fine and good for men to have their own opinions on women’s styles, and vice versa. But opinions on styles one doesn’t wear should be kept to oneself unless asked for. And when it’s related to the balancing acts women do to be perceived as socially acceptable it’s a tightrope.