• yucandu@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    No, they are an alliance for defense. Nothing peaceful about it, they will fuck you up with military force if you mess with any one of their member states.

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      No, they are an alliance for defense. Nothing peaceful about it, they will fuck you up with military force if you mess with any one of the US’s economic interests.

      There, FTFY

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        2 days ago

        But that’s not true. Why do you guys repeat such propaganda without question? Countless nations have messed with the US’s economic interests throughout history, how many times has NATO gotten involved?

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          The point is that “NATO” is an umbrella term for “US’s interests” or “US military”.
          The US can and absolutely does wreck shit up for the sake of their own interests, regardless of international law. “NATO” only comes into play when either other countries are willing to step in or the US might need a veneer of legitimacy.

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            The point is that “NATO” is an umbrella term for “US’s interests” or “US military”.

            Well if we’re just misusing words and making things up, shit, why not say “DPRK” is an umbrella term for “US’s interests”?

            I think you might need to engage in some self-reflection and consider whether you may have been influenced by Russian/Chinese propaganda. There is no rational reason to have a problem with the existence of NATO.

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            So then lobby your government to buy Mirage or Viggen jets instead of whining about the existence of NATO and repeating Russian and Chinese propaganda.

            What country did you move to that is so much better than Canada?

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                Every criticism of the military industrial complex must be a muskow envoy.

                By all means, criticize the military industrial complex away. But that’s American. Not NATO procurement of French and Swedish and German military equipment. As your aforementioned article shows, they’re quite good at rooting out that kind of corruption.

                But if you’re criticizing NATO and your criticism isn’t based in reality or doesn’t make sense? Yeah my bets are on either Russia or China being behind that one.

                You want us yuropeans to die for your goddamn war.

                What war? NATO isn’t at war. But if you’re in Europe, sooner or later, you’re going to be fighting Russia. They’re not going to stop at Donbass.

                You think we forgot what happened when the said Russians got sick of dying for the tsar so you guys quit fighting Germany and attacked them instead? Or that time when you Yanks sent them Yeltsin and then the eastern block got destabilized to this day?

                You seem to have forgotten halfway through writing your comment that I am Canadian, not American. Then for some reason you repeated some more Russian propaganda about America “sending them Yeltsin” and being entirely to blame for a destabilized Eastern Europe.

                You have just as much blood on your stupid hands

                You can’t even remember what country I’m from. You’re just rambling random eastern propaganda like a drunk person.

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                  During ww1 Canada was the dominion innit? Essentially britain. You guys still invaded russia in 1919.

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                  What war? NATO isn’t at war. But if you’re in Europe, sooner or later, you’re going to be fighting Russia. They’re not going to stop at Donbass.

                  Said who, some experts based on a blackrock report written by McKinsley and edited by lockheed?

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                  it’s the same fucking thing, retard. I was in canada. Just another kind of offbrand brits. Doesn’t change a thing. Exact same lifestyle, culture and political orientations.

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                  I don’t really care. “Eastern propaganda” you’re the one sucking lockheed martin dick, asshole. It would be funny if scums like you weren’t organising the salvaging of our social systems in order to buy bombs to defend ourself against big bad russia.

                  Russia, who, again, wouldn’t even be its own country if it wasn’t for the nato. Putin, trump, the european leaders, they’re all on the same side. The genocide. Yours.