• Narauko@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    You’re either actively against them, or you’re part of the problem.

    I’ll take this whole section generously as a nebulous “you” and not you directly calling me either “one of them or a useful hateful racist”.

    Two things can both be wrong, it’s not a zero sum game between open borders and fascist police states. Treating it as such caused the Democrats to lose some amount of support base, and did contribute to Trump getting reelected. The increase in Trump support from Hispanics and other immigrant groups was partially from resentment with treating illegal immigration as equivalent to legal immigration.

    Yes, the poem on the Statue of Liberty is wonderful, and should still apply as the US is and should remain a nation of immigrants. That is not the same as having open borders for anyone and everyone, and it never has been.

    • leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      14 hours ago

      Two things can both be wrong

      When one of those two things is fascism, the other one is irrelevant.

      The difference in magnitude between how wrong one objectively is and the other might be is so cosmically vast, that any comparison is moot.

      You either stop fascism, by any means necessary, or you (and everyone else) suffers the consequences.

      Again, there is no possible middle ground.

      There is no possible “yes, but…”.

      There are no other priorities.

      There’s no possible bargaining, rationalisation, justification, or argument.

      Any attempt at such is either irrational or malicious, or most probably both.

      When faced with an existential threat, you either do everything in your power to stop it, or you suffer its consequences, and allow everyone else to suffer them.

      If you are not actively opposing fascism, you are enabling it.

      You are a necessary accomplice and collaborator.

      You are effectively indistinguishable from any other fascist, and equally responsible for any harm they cause.

      Accept your responsibility and, if you don’t like it, stop trying to justify yourself and start doing something about it.