• BeBopALouie@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    I am almost 70. I am very anecdotal, I understand.

    In the 80’s after the fake energy scare (gas shortage one) that was all over the news saying we will have an ice age and other lies by the government I no longer listened or believed a word they said.

    I tried to tell friends, family and anyone else I could (I was all pumped up after watching Carl Sagan’s Cosmos and his dire message) that we have to take better care of the planet etc. I was laughed at, told to shut the fuck up you stupid hippie and other such stuff. I gave up trying. Did my own thing to help a bit. Never bought new anything like cars, clothes, tech etc. Still the same to this day.

    I see the same thing now by the majority of young folks and most others just like back in the day.

    Hopefully at some point there will be a major shift in people’s thinking about our planet …

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      2 days ago

      I actually am 70 and remember the “oil crisis”. It would be great if there were a major shift in people’s thinking, but the vast majority of people don’t seem to do squat until they really have to. I think that force has driven a lot of history.

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        2 days ago

        I’m still trying to figure out The timeline of when it switched from ice age to global warming. Most likely after scientists figured out the real reason.

    • Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      I read a stat like 70% of all carbon emissions come from like 10 sources, and our individual efforts is basically like pissing in the sea, its not going do much.

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        3 days ago

        This is like the “both sides” argument in politics.

        It resonates with people and encourages apathy supporting the status quo.

        Its true that the actions of an individual aren’t very impactful. Its also true that large corporations are responsible for the vast majority of the problem.

        However, if no one bought products from those companies, or owned their shares, then they would exist.

        While “no one” is not possible, what if everyone just used 5% less, or 5% of people switched to an “ethical” 401k / pension funds that didn’t invest in these companies.

        We dont need a few people doing climate mitigation perfectly, we need everyone doing climate mitigation imperfectly.

        It sounds like such a small change, yet we’re unable to achieve it.

        For example, here in Australia our conservative party is presently trying to discard our pathetic carbon emissions targets saying they’re unachievable.

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          2 days ago

          Ah, but is it apathy to support the systematic teardown of these major sources? Like actually destroying private jets for instance

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            1 day ago

            Oh please. It’s like you didn’t even read my comment. Your claim may be “true” but it’s precisely what governments and polluters want you to be thinking and saying. “I personally can’t do anything about this.”

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        3 days ago

        In Europe, 40% of emissions come from private cars. If we remove all other emissions, we still can’t reach the factor of 4 just because of cars. Are you sure your source isn’t BP?

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          The glorious thing about climate change is it increases the NEED for air conditioning. There are populated places right now that you will die if you have to be outside without water for too long.