• mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    And how’d that work out, last year? Did attacking Harris make things better in general? Or even on this specific issue?

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      To answer the question, it didn’t make things better, but it didn’t make things much worse either - the status quo is preserved as always. The concentration camps that Trump is boasting about (such as the Alligator camp or whatever it’s called) were previously opened by Biden, ICE was also being maintained to forcefully deport people, Israel is still being funded all the same by the US whether it was Trump or not, the only difference that Trump is being more open about these things and are expanding these operations which isn’t good at all but doesn’t shake the status quo at all.

      Harris didn’t address any of these things, in fact she promised to expand on anti-immigration as part of opportunism.

      At the same time, that’s the wrong question to ask - merely making things better isn’t enough given how it can always be reversed when wind blows a slightly different way no matter the party. What needs to happen is for the present state of things to change entirely, that’s the only way towards permanent improvement for the majority, which is what I meant in my original comment.

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        17 hours ago

        ‘1920s Germany also had cops and racism’ is tacit denial of what got worse in the 1930s.

        Not aided by straight-up lying about the Florida concentration camp, because god damn, you have a psychological need to blame the previous democrat for every evil done by republicans. Ron Desantis built that camp last month. Can’t let that stop you from recycling time-vampire nonsense about Obama also separating children… from child traffickers.

        Natural-born citizens are being snatched off the street and maybe shipped to foreign prisons the same day, but hey, I’m sure that was status quo under Biden. We had immigration laws and cops were shitty, so that’s totes mcgoats the same thing as publicly salivating about rounding up sixty-five million people.

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      2 days ago

      Last year “was not the time” to criticize democrats. Is now also not the time? Please provide a timetable so everyone knows when it’s convenient.

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        I wonder if Lenin ever ceased to attack Kerensky so the tsar could be overthrown? If he ceased his criticism of the Trudoviks? If he spoke out in support of progressive reformist of the Kadets? A socialist is not the attack dog of democrats, they are not a “proud boys”- type militia to be called upon and leashed again.

        I think that is the concept that libs and socdems have of the modern far left (especially in the us)

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        1 day ago

        ‘Attacking the preferable option is fundamentally counterproductive.’

        ‘When will it not be?’

        Incorrect.

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      It worked out just like we warned them it would. Maybe next time, the Democrats should listen to their voter-base.