I’m sure that for a substancial period already the youth gets educated about this.
I referenced the 50’s since they had all the archaic hierarchical cliche’s like the man providing for his family, etc…
I think we have moved on from there.
There will always be reactionary people and yes there is the manosphere social media BS but honestly I have encountered none of that.
Even with some I didn’t expect it like a welder “tough guy” I know.
So it might be different for you but my experience with this issue is totally positive.
Might depend on the country, religion or other factors.
It’s not only society and other men creating some sort of toxic environmental soup where emotions are ridiculed.
A lot of men are hard wired to be solitary and self-sufficient. It’s like a genetic survival thing that persists even though community and society are the lynchpins of human survival.
When a “strong silent type” is doing their thing, they often really are strong and can get by without anyone else, but when the inevitable cracks start to show, they haven’t fostered the support systems that most people have around them. These guys will suffer in silence and it can cost them their health and their lives because they have encountered a problem they are unable to resolve and they don’t have anyone to turn to.
It’s definitely less common than it used to be, and support systems are definitely more readily available, but it’s still there, and there are still people who will try to gut it out when they really should seek help.
I know a guy like that.
A good friend actually, quiet, super nice and always ready to help anyone.
He took a lot of shit from bosses, landlords etc… a lot of stress.
Couldn’t get how he handled it, often said he needed to react when something happened for his own good but he just let it go every time, like some buddhist monk.
One time in a bar during a stressful period a little thing pushed him over the edge.
Totally snapped and wanted to fight everyone.
Nobody could believe how he was in that moment.
I had to drag him out to calm him down.
Took some time to get him out of his fury but at once he broke and started crying on my shoulder.
It was also a lesson for me.
Just being available isn’t enough.
With some people you need tobe more attentive, read the small signs and get them to talk, they won’t do it by themselves even if they know they can.
I’m sure that for a substancial period already the youth gets educated about this.
I referenced the 50’s since they had all the archaic hierarchical cliche’s like the man providing for his family, etc…
I think we have moved on from there.
There will always be reactionary people and yes there is the manosphere social media BS but honestly I have encountered none of that.
Even with some I didn’t expect it like a welder “tough guy” I know.
So it might be different for you but my experience with this issue is totally positive.
Might depend on the country, religion or other factors.
It’s not only society and other men creating some sort of toxic environmental soup where emotions are ridiculed.
A lot of men are hard wired to be solitary and self-sufficient. It’s like a genetic survival thing that persists even though community and society are the lynchpins of human survival.
When a “strong silent type” is doing their thing, they often really are strong and can get by without anyone else, but when the inevitable cracks start to show, they haven’t fostered the support systems that most people have around them. These guys will suffer in silence and it can cost them their health and their lives because they have encountered a problem they are unable to resolve and they don’t have anyone to turn to.
It’s definitely less common than it used to be, and support systems are definitely more readily available, but it’s still there, and there are still people who will try to gut it out when they really should seek help.
I know a guy like that.
A good friend actually, quiet, super nice and always ready to help anyone.
He took a lot of shit from bosses, landlords etc… a lot of stress.
Couldn’t get how he handled it, often said he needed to react when something happened for his own good but he just let it go every time, like some buddhist monk.
One time in a bar during a stressful period a little thing pushed him over the edge.
Totally snapped and wanted to fight everyone.
Nobody could believe how he was in that moment. I had to drag him out to calm him down.
Took some time to get him out of his fury but at once he broke and started crying on my shoulder.
It was also a lesson for me.
Just being available isn’t enough.
With some people you need tobe more attentive, read the small signs and get them to talk, they won’t do it by themselves even if they know they can.