Disclaimer I’m not white nor do I agree with their ideology
Here is the reason why, they are actively taking themselves out of society and creating their own commune, so why the fuck would we want to stop all the anti democracy white supremacists from leaving society and forming their own?
I genuinly think it would be better for the country as a whole for them to be left alone and self sufficient as long as they aren’t using public utilities and infrasture and aren’t imposing themselves on others let them have their White Christian Nationalist settlement away from the rest of US.
Literally the trash taking its self out.
That commune will become bolder and more radical.
A threat to the public beyond their Nazi camp.
Not making an argument one way or the other here but this is literally just slippery slope fallacy
The government knows where they are and can keep an eye on them a lot easier in one off grid location than infiltrating positions of government and jobs of trust
You believe the gov’t wouldn’t be supportive of their philosophy? Maybe you’re not paying attention.
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My concern is for their kids, who are then more likely to grow up also being racist trash.
Also fuck white supremacists, they should never get what they want.
I’ve never heard of this group you’re referring to, but this sounds like a really bad idea.
You want to carve out a piece of the USA that would put them beyond the rule of law?
I found out about them yesterday, they have basically created a “private society” where they are building their houses and infrastructure from scratch in the middle of the forested mountains.
My thought is that, if they are taking their themselves out of society and leave the rest of us alone and the government knows 100% where they are then I say let them be monitored and kept away from civilized society.
If a person of color wants to rent an apartment in that town, and the landlord denies them because of their skin color (which is against the law in the United States source ), what are you proposing would be the legal consequences for that “whites only town” landlord? Should they face the full weight of US law, or are you saying we should give them a pass because they’re whites only?
As long as they aren’t being supported by the government in any way (including using prebuilt infrastructure) they should be left alone, because again its convenient for the government to have a place where they can watch all the christo-facists and get them out of normal society.
Also I don’t know why anyone would want to force themselves into that awful group.
As long as they aren’t being supported by the government in any way (including using prebuilt infrastructure) they should be left alone
I’m sorry, that’s just nuts. I can’t imagine telling 38.4% of Americans “You can’t go to this place in and be protected by our laws in America. Its for ‘whites-only’”
Also I don’t know why anyone would want to force themselves into that awful group.
You keep coming back to this. It doesn’t matter why a person of color would go there. We live in a country where we have laws that make lots of forms of discrimination illegal across the entire country. The thought of simply suspending those hard won protections for people of all races is a slap in the face to the hundreds of thousands or millions that fought for those protections and for everyone that came after.
Racial supremacy (of any race, not just white) is society cancer, and it isn’t benign. We, as a society, need to continuously work to keep educating everyone and dispelling the myths these groups use to justify their behavior. Giving them a legal free pass to break discrimination laws is the worst thing we could do.
I think they should be given a pass - same way women-only gyms get one. That hypothetical person of color has a million places they can go and just one where they’re not welcome. Seems like a fair trade to me.
That hypothetical person of color has a million places they can go and just one where they’re not welcome. Seems like a fair trade to me.
So how about if they open a restaurant, perhaps a lunch counter service. Are you saying as long as there are other equal lunch counters that serve people of color separately, then this “whites-only” is allowable?
how “just one”? if such a thing was allowed there, why wouldn’t it be elsewhere?
Well, I didn’t literally mean there’d be just a single place. Obviously, once you set that precedent, other places like it would start popping up too. But it’s not obvious to me that this is a bad thing - or at least worse than the alternatives. I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with people wanting to live among like-minded people and, in effect, build echo chambers for themselves.
I do think the philosophy behind it is immoral from my perspective, but that’s not really the point. What matters is the concrete effect this ideology has in the real world. And if, in our current cities, we have racists committing racist violence against minorities, then is it really so much worse to just let them all move off into their own little enclave where they can live out their perfect lives without any black people around, if that’s what they want? At least then the rest of us wouldn’t have to deal with them on a daily basis.
It would be like 14 months before the society completely crumbles and everybody is bitching that the federal government didn’t step in and help them