• Saleh@feddit.org
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    The fact that he later regretted it, doesn’t change the fact that he was having sex with her.

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      It’s a fundamental and intentional omission that completely alters the implication of the referenced work to fit Freud’s use of it. 🤌🏼

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      are you unaware that he didn’t know haephestus was his mother because he was adopted after his mother and father tried to have him killed as an infant, or are you intentionally ignoring that he didn’t know?

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        He saw her, he found her hot, he had sex with her.

        All of this is related to his subconsciousness, which also has access to his body recognizing smell and shape.

        That is consistent with the allegation of Freud, that the subconsciousness wants to have sex with the mothers.

        See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oedipus_complex#Background

        However, in The Interpretation of Dreams, Freud makes it clear that the “primordial urges and fears” that are his concern and the basis of the Oedipal complex are inherent in the myths the play is based on, not primarily in the play itself, which Freud refers to as a “further modification of the legend” that originates in a “misconceived secondary revision of the material, which has sought to exploit it for theological purposes”

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          Nobody, and I mean NOBODY with any amount of psychology education actually think Freud was right on anything. He was the biggest pseudoscientist of all time.

          See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oedipus_complex#Criticism

          Studies conducted of children’s attitudes to parents at the oedipal stage do not demonstrate the shifts in positive feelings that are predicted by the theory.[54] Case studies that Freud relied upon, such as the case of Little Hans, could not be verified through research or experimentation on a larger population.[55] Adolf Grünbaum argues that the type of evidence Freud and his followers used, the clinical productions of patients during analytic treatment, by their nature cannot provide cogent observational support for Freud’s core hypotheses.[56]

          Evolutionary psychologists Martin Daly and Margo Wilson, in their 1988 book Homicide, argue that the Oedipus complex theory yields few testable predictions. They find no evidence of the Oedipus complex in people. There is evidence of parent–child conflict but it is not for sexual possession of the opposite sex-parent.[57]

          According to psychiatrist Jeffrey Lieberman, Freud and his followers resisted subjecting his theories, including the Oedipus theory, to scientific testing and verification.[58] Lieberman claims that investigations based in cognitive psychology either contradict or fail to support Freud’s ideas.[58]

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            Nobody is arguing that Freud was right.
            They’re explaining why Freud named it the Oedipus complex.

            I agree with them. Just because Freud was wrong doesn’t mean his reasoning for the naming wasn’t consistent with his beliefs. He believed that the ignorance allowed Oedipus to express the internal desire that would otherwise be inhibited.

            He was wrong, but that explains why he named it this way.

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            arguably the study of psychology draws more from trying to determine what the fuck was wrong with freud than it does freud getting anything right at all