• Showroom7561@lemmy.ca
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    13 hours ago

    The problem is on-street parking. Removing it would easily allow for plenty of space for pedestrians and businesses.

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      8 hours ago

      Yup. They blocked off 2 blocks in a very pedestrian popular area downtown near me, people love it. Restaurants expanded into the street a little, live music, etc. really made it very nice

      • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zip
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        12 hours ago

        Yes because car-centric design suck, and i live in one. Which kinda makes sidewalk more precious for pedestrian, especially for people with handicap.

  • Cosmoooooooo@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Fuck these people. Sidewalks are for fucking walking, not for extra space for your stupid fucking restaurant.

    “I’ll just take over the entire sidewalk with tables and chairs!” - Asshole

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      8 hours ago

      In some places here in Sweden, restaurants with sidewalk tables have an extra “lane” for pedestrians installed in parallel over the side of the street, like a protected boardwalk

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        In my village in France they close the main street in the evening and weekend for restaurants and bars to put their table there.

        I love it

    • Squizzy@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      Eh its hardly a one size fits all case. These companies employ and pay community taxes as well as a host of others. If it is feasible they should be allowed to do this. Get rid of the parking after 5pm and put out seating. Sidewalk is free and there is extra space.

      Tbh I love when restaurants have huge outside patio, courtyard spaces.

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      12 hours ago

      We can get rid of the parking spots and put the side walks there while ahopa can use the space outside their shop for whatever they see fit. It’s good for communities to have people out and doing things, not just shoved away inside somewhere.

      • 🇨🇦 tunetardis@piefed.ca
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        11 hours ago

        I think that’s part of the plan though right? If they spot a compliance officer walking up, they can drive the patio around the block a bit until he’s gone.

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    12 hours ago

    Keeping shit off the sidewalk doesn’t seem very car centric to me, hell, damn near the opposite.

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      15 hours ago

      It’s not stupid if it blocks pedestrians from using the sidewalk. I mean, imagine putting them tables all across the road for cars… I think this is a creative and good solution for everybody.

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        13 hours ago

        At least one of the pictures looks like they parked on parking spots not on the sidewalk so I’m totally cool with them doing it tbh.

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        15 hours ago

        Yes, but the title sounds like all “sidewalk patio tables” were banned, not just some particular one in a narrow place. But that’s modern journalism – the title might be whatever they feel is more click-baity.

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          12 hours ago

          Idk about that case, but here all sidewalk patio tables are banned unless you get a permit, and that permit decides if there is room for pedestrians to pass the tables.

        • Cosmoooooooo@lemmy.world
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          Good. Ban all fucking sidewalk tables. Why? Because they’re on the fucking SIDEWALK, where people fucking walk.

          But that’s modern journalism for you, an asshole without empathy making stupid assumptions. Plus zero awareness of the disabled and their need to use clear sidewalks for mobility.

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    If they’re willing to risk, along with the customers, to have folks get off that flat bed after some alcohol consumption, go for it. Keep the sidewalk for foot traffic, neighborhood kids playing and older folks to get around without obstacles.

    This is a humble neighborhood with working class folks, in a typically hot and humid environment with limited or zero AC, and they probably have small apartments so you need these comfortable options to chill and enjoy time with friends and family after busting your ass working all month. I see this as a win for everyone.

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      12 hours ago

      older folks to get arround without obstacles

      Bro has not seen a Brazilian sidewalk, there are light posts in the middle of it, and the owners of the buildings are responsible for maintaining it, so every 10 meters there is a giant step and some rough terrain. Brazil has horrible urban planning and walkability, the city hall decision just sounds like carbrain to me. “The sidewalk is small so we will push people indoors” Why is the sidewalk small in the first place?

      • HowAbt2day@futurology.today
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        I haven’t been to all of Brasil and you’re right, sidewalks come in all shapes and sides. Or non existent. My theory on why sidewalks are small in some cities is that local governments make the streets too wide for trucks to pass.

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    Don’t know Brazilian law, but here distributing alcohol to that platform would be illegal.

    Can restaurants sell alcohol as a takeaway in Brazil? If so, it would be hard to forbid that, unless you have a law about drinking in public outside restaurant premises.

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      15 hours ago

      Not Brazilian. But as someone who has had the privilege to travel around in the past, the US was the only country I visited that had these super strict Puritan Alcohol laws.

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        Liquor licensing for restaurants is a think in many places in the world. So are building codes.

        There might be some very good reasons for not allowing restaurants to arbitrarily setup chairs on raised platforms with no railings above concrete and then serve liquor up there.

        This is a TBI waiting to happen.

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          Liquor Liscence is common. Policing where people are allowed to drink what they bought is pretty uncommon.

          • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zip
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            12 hours ago

            Is it though? I went through the whole wiki page and it tell me otherwise, though some country have nationwide ban, some have state ban, some have municipal/city ban, and most commonly are area ban.

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        13 hours ago

        I think many countries have those laws, whether or not they’re strictly enforced.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_in_public

        Also depends on where in the US. Bourbon street? Las Vegas? Atlantic City? Go for it. It’s also one of those things where it’s an unspoken rule. Community concert on the green? Just don’t have an open beer, put it into a cup and people will care less and it’s hard for cops to say anything.

        It’s certainly strange, but I think the issue here is cops being more militaristic, especially against those they think they can get an easy arrest, rather than our country being the only one with drinking in public laws.

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      I’m Brazilian, and I’ll say I have no idea what a "take away"alcohol purchase means. Here you can open the can inside the market, drink it as you purchase as long as you pay it on the way out. Never heard of any laws against drinking in public, only about selling alcohol to minors and drunk driving

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      Brazilian here.

      It’s legal to sell alcohol as takeway and its legal to drink outside of public restaurant premises.

      From the top of my head the only place that isnt allowed to sell alcohol is in football stadiums in some states. Some can still sell it but only in plastic cups.

      I don’t really see a problem (aside from some drunk person falling off the platform while trying to go to the bathroom) in this solution. This could very well be in place as a permanent solution to this pub.