• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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    And let pro-genocide ghouls spread your slop in the hopes of getting as many minorities murdered as possible?

    Not only that, but the majority of those posts and comments are on non-political comms, where the ghoul brigade doesn’t come out to lick fascist boots and talk about how minorities deserve to die because the DNC didn’t entertain them enough.

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        You sound genuinely unwell.

        I didn’t realize your criteria for being unwell was “Not enjoying Nazis”. I suppose that says a lot about what you think of as ‘well’, though.

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            What would a genuine and good faith interpretation of a disingenuous and bad faith statement look like, in your disingenuous and bad faith opinion?

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              And let pro-genocide ghouls spread your slop in the hopes of getting as many minorities murdered as possible?

              It seems like you’ve position your posted here as your fight against fascism. Also implying I was a pro-genocide ghoul trying to get as many minorities murdered as possible.

              This level of hostility and aggression is not healthy. To me it speaks to someone that spends too much time online. Even if it is not political posting, it seems evident that you do spend a great deal of time on this website and I think it would feel better about other people if you spent more time with them.

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                Also implying I was a pro-genocide ghoul trying to get as many minorities murdered as possible.

                Not really sure what else you think enabling Nazis is.

                This level of hostility and aggression is not healthy.

                Oh, of course, I’m not being civil enough about my impending death and the death of many of the people I know and love, and the deaths of millions of people I don’t know but who, nonetheless, don’t deserve it.

                I shouldn’t be angry about any of that, at all, I should be joining the asspat circlejerk about how great and noble a thing it is to stand idly by and let all of that happen rather than sully your precious soul with a v*te, and encourage everyone involved to do it again.

                Check your fucking privilege, and stop playing tone police for criticism of people who enable literal fucking Nazis.

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                  Have you ever thought about reading stuff out like this to a therapist? How do you imagine they would see this conversation?

                  I am not telling you to not be angry. I am telling you I think distance from this space you seem to devote hours to, and actively get infuriated at, isn’t actually good for you. Further I don’t think it’s that helpful for the state of the world. With that knowledge I think it’s worth asking, why stay in a place you hate, arguing with people you think are ‘literal fucking nazis’ to what I would guess is little avail. Have you looked into local organizing and the groups in your community that act to fight fascism?

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                    Have you ever thought about reading stuff out like this to a therapist?

                    Bruh, I see a therapist every month.

                    I am not telling you to not be angry.

                    This you?

                    This level of hostility and aggression is not healthy.

                    What do you think anger is? Are you telling me, instead, to suppress my anger? Or are you just whinging because my anger is directed at you lot instead of the people you would prefer I be yelling at?

                    I am telling you I think distance from this space you seem to devote hours to, and actively get infuriated at, isn’t actually good for you.

                    “It’s not good to get angry at Nazis”

                    Is this something you would say to someone getting angry at people you agreed were Nazis, or would you be asspatting them?

                    It sounds much more like you’re upset that someone is getting angry at you for enabling the murder of minorities, and rather than take a moment of self-reflection, you opt to deflect and accuse the person bringing this uncomfortable fact to your attention of, in some way, overreacting to the prospect of their own death and the death of those they love.

                    Most days I don’t even comment in Political Memes, because most days there’s nothing here that upsets me. But when people start passing around asspat memes about how great it is to murder minorities to Teach The Dems A Lesson, I respond in kind to emphasize that murdering minorities is NOT good, it is NOT left praxis, and it does NOT help anyone except for the FUCKING NAZIS.

                    If that’s a problem, you can stick around .ml, I understand that they’ll give all the asspats you want for that behavior.

                    Further I don’t think it’s that helpful for the state of the world.

                    “Posting memes isn’t going to change the world” is possible one of the least surprisingly things one can say.

                    Posting memes does, however, contribute to the overarching attitudes of online communities, including which views are held in majority and which are viewed as acceptable, and I would rather not Lemmy.world become a safe space for people who celebrate actions that lead to my death and the death of many millions of others for the sake of some bizarre sense of politics as spiritualism.

                    With that knowledge I think it’s worth asking, why stay in a place you hate, arguing with people you think are ‘literal fucking nazis’ to what I would guess is little avail.

                    It’s actually come a long way. Tankie shitwits used to be around 1/3 of this comm; in some two years, tankies are all but absent and campists make up only maybe 1/6.

                    I’m only a small part of that change, but it’s not “little avail” for such a large change in the prevailing opinions here.

                    Have you looked into local organizing and the groups in your community that act to fight fascism?

                    I have, actually, and I participate to my limited ability wrt physical and mental disabilities. At this point, we mostly organize marches, spread awareness, and try to keep in contact with immigrants and others harassed by law enforcement to provide legal resources, since none of us are quite ready to get shot throwing molotovs.

                    I mean, I’m ready to get shot, but only if it makes some kind of a difference. I spent a fucking decade digging myself out of suicidality, I’m not ready to dive back in on a martyrdom lark without even a serious chance of becoming a martyr instead of a quickly dismissed dead lunatic.

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              Hey man. You were upset with me yesterday when I tried to have a conversation with you too. Really, a community and some fresh air will help.

              We all agree shits bad. No one wants this. We are not the people who caused you harm.

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                Hey man. You were upset with me yesterday when I tried to have a conversation with you too.

                You tried to ‘have a conversation’ about what a shitlib MLK Jr. was and had a bizarre take that riots weren’t civil unrest.

                We all agree shits bad. No one wants this. We are not the people who caused you harm.

                Would you be saying that to abstainers if this election was between, say, Malcolm X and Strom Thurmond?

                “If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.” - Some guy who probably knows nothing about oppression, a shitlib, I guess.

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                  I dont believe in American democracy and I don’t believe the present ruling class gives a damn about rules or laws. So I cant answer your bizarre hypothetical election question.

                  You need to be able to have a conversation with someone who disagrees with you without assuming they are all Nazi sympathizers. Kamala won my state, just FYI. There was 0 impact to your life from anything I did or did not due on election day.