It seems to be too long. I doubt it would be road legal here. And if it was, by some absurd event, it would probably fall under C category, which is for heavy load vehicles. It would not be something someone would park in a supermarket parking lot.
I have a vague idea there is a limit to the dimensions of a vehicle before it is classified into another category but I will not insist on it.
Yes, according to German law (it’s probably similar in the rest of EU), the limit is 12 m for cars and 18 m for trucks. Yet, afaIk, it doesn’t affect the type of driver’s licence necessary for driving such a vehicle.
You didn’t notice that monstrosity has three rows of doors? It’s probably a 2+3+3 or 2+2+2. So, at least, six passengers.
Yes, but the driver legally doesn’t count as passenger and (a part of him) enters the mass of the ‘empty’ vehicle with 70 kg. So it’s either 5 or 7 passengers.
See we don’t even really have a max length, the usual rule is 23 or 27 meters (depends on province but most interprovincial guys obviously follow the smaller limit) but if you want to be longer, then it’s yearly or monthly permits. Regina to Saskatoon on highway 11, 39 meter combos are common.
Alberta allows something you won’t see anywhere else, to my knowledge, three 53 foot trailers with converter dollys’, I’m sorry, I was tired of converting to metric, trucking is still in Imperial in canada. On paper it is metric, but it’s all bullshit that makes no sense, it’s all metric equivalates. Australia allows similar things I guess.
In Canada, this thing would have a max gvw roughly around 5500kg and it would weigh about 3, 3500 empty, depending, so max capacity around 2000 kg. That’s just a normal license here, the other categories really don’t start until 10,000 gvw. Non north americans tend to find that odd, but it’s not like we aren’t taught how to drive these things same as you guys, categories just differ.
As I’ve said, I wasn’t fucking arguing, I was telling you how things are in other countries. But fuck it. Your laws are stupid and so is your government, and so are you for endorsing this nanny state bureaucracy like it’s your own personal identity.
As a light vehicle, under 3500kg, that is the best I can do here. If there are light vehicles as long as that pick up roaming in my country’s roads, I am yet to see them.
What you linked is already in the heavy cargo category, as in a cargo or freight truck.
Look bud, you implied that was the longest a person could buy where you are, and there is nothing stopping you from buying what I posted. The picture we are discussing, that 6 door monstrosity, is built on a commercial chassis, not light truck. If it is real, and in alberta, the “car” insurance companies won’t insure him, I ran into that when I used to have a GMC 3500 flat deck but for personal use.
If it wasn’t clear from the start, pick ups are light vehicles in my country, which was my starting point.
The longest vehicle, under 3500kg, thus retaining the light category and still built around a load bearing chassis is the van I showed. Emphasis on “van”.
You showed a freight truck, which is a heavy cargo vehicle, not a touring one, like that monstrosity appears to have been built to pass as.
Something like that, here, considering its sheer size alone, would be classified as a heavy vehicle and thus pushed into the same group has freight trucks, but it would still be commercially and coloquially designated has a pick up. Insurance wise, I don’t have the slightest idea how it happens but it would have to be insured in order to able to use public roads. Probably it would boild down to a matter of numbers to be paid. What would surely face, would be serious constraints and impediments to freely circulate, again, from its sheer stupid size and lenght.
F150s are being pushed into the market recently but the pick ups are too large for many roads, with disastrous results. That aberration would easily get stuck here.
It seems to be too long. I doubt it would be road legal here. And if it was, by some absurd event, it would probably fall under C category, which is for heavy load vehicles. It would not be something someone would park in a supermarket parking lot.
AfaIk, to put a vehicle into category car (class B) or truck (class C/C1), its length doesn’t matter. The only important factor is the maximum permitted total mass, which is 3.5 t for a ‘car’ or 7.5 t for a light truck (C1) or ‘unlimited’ for a regular truck ©.
Essentially, this the limiting factor here to be considered as class B ‘car’: As the empty mass of that vehicle is probably quite large, it’s subsequently not permitted to be loaded with noteworthy amount of freight, to remain below 3.5 t, perhaps not even the 5 people that would fit inside.
Thus, if it’s not completely hoax, it only is allowed to be driven by those that have a C1 licence, which is either professionals or, e.g. in Germany, older people who’ve had that included in their ‘class 2’ licence.
I have a vague idea there is a limit to the dimensions of a vehicle before it is classified into another category but I will not insist on it.
You didn’t notice that monstrosity has three rows of doors? It’s probably a 2+3+3 or 2+2+2. So, at least, six passengers.
But I agree. It would most probably fall under C category here, making it a commercial vehicle.
Yes, according to German law (it’s probably similar in the rest of EU), the limit is 12 m for cars and 18 m for trucks. Yet, afaIk, it doesn’t affect the type of driver’s licence necessary for driving such a vehicle.
Yes, but the driver legally doesn’t count as passenger and (a part of him) enters the mass of the ‘empty’ vehicle with 70 kg. So it’s either 5 or 7 passengers.
See we don’t even really have a max length, the usual rule is 23 or 27 meters (depends on province but most interprovincial guys obviously follow the smaller limit) but if you want to be longer, then it’s yearly or monthly permits. Regina to Saskatoon on highway 11, 39 meter combos are common.
In Europe, the maximum length of a combo usually is 18,50 m and iirc 24 m in the Nordics.
Alberta allows something you won’t see anywhere else, to my knowledge, three 53 foot trailers with converter dollys’, I’m sorry, I was tired of converting to metric, trucking is still in Imperial in canada. On paper it is metric, but it’s all bullshit that makes no sense, it’s all metric equivalates. Australia allows similar things I guess.
In Canada, this thing would have a max gvw roughly around 5500kg and it would weigh about 3, 3500 empty, depending, so max capacity around 2000 kg. That’s just a normal license here, the other categories really don’t start until 10,000 gvw. Non north americans tend to find that odd, but it’s not like we aren’t taught how to drive these things same as you guys, categories just differ.
As I’ve said, in Germany, until 1998, people got a class 2 ‘car’ driver’s licence for vehicles up to 7.5 t and learned driving on a VW Beetle or Golf.
As I’ve said, I wasn’t fucking arguing, I was telling you how things are in other countries. But fuck it. Your laws are stupid and so is your government, and so are you for endorsing this nanny state bureaucracy like it’s your own personal identity.
You don’t have cube vans, wherever you are from? Maybe “delivery lorries?”
Not that long. The closest thing to this would be a super long cargo van with extended crew cab.
…That’s exactly what this is.
This is probably the longest I can get in Portugal.
well, no, that’s blatantly untrue, but your country does seem to like cabovers. https://autoline.info/-/trucks/Portugal--c2cntPT
As a light vehicle, under 3500kg, that is the best I can do here. If there are light vehicles as long as that pick up roaming in my country’s roads, I am yet to see them.
What you linked is already in the heavy cargo category, as in a cargo or freight truck.
We are weird with our distinctions here.
Look bud, you implied that was the longest a person could buy where you are, and there is nothing stopping you from buying what I posted. The picture we are discussing, that 6 door monstrosity, is built on a commercial chassis, not light truck. If it is real, and in alberta, the “car” insurance companies won’t insure him, I ran into that when I used to have a GMC 3500 flat deck but for personal use.
Tone it down, “bud”.
If it wasn’t clear from the start, pick ups are light vehicles in my country, which was my starting point.
The longest vehicle, under 3500kg, thus retaining the light category and still built around a load bearing chassis is the van I showed. Emphasis on “van”.
You showed a freight truck, which is a heavy cargo vehicle, not a touring one, like that monstrosity appears to have been built to pass as.
Something like that, here, considering its sheer size alone, would be classified as a heavy vehicle and thus pushed into the same group has freight trucks, but it would still be commercially and coloquially designated has a pick up. Insurance wise, I don’t have the slightest idea how it happens but it would have to be insured in order to able to use public roads. Probably it would boild down to a matter of numbers to be paid. What would surely face, would be serious constraints and impediments to freely circulate, again, from its sheer stupid size and lenght.
F150s are being pushed into the market recently but the pick ups are too large for many roads, with disastrous results. That aberration would easily get stuck here.