by Caitlin Johnstone
Jul 18, 2025

It’s 2025. Israeli soldiers are telling the Israeli press that they’re being ordered to massacre starving civilians trying to obtain food from aid centers. Countless doctors have been telling the world that Israeli snipers are routinely, deliberately shooting children in the head and chest throughout the Gaza Strip. Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and all the leading genocide experts and human rights authorities are saying that a genocide is being perpetrated in Gaza. The New York fucking Times just published an op-ed by a Zionist genocide scholar who’s finally admitting that it’s a genocide.

There’s no way to deny what this is anymore. If you still support Israel in the year 2025, it’s not because you don’t believe Israel is committing horrific atrocities. It’s because you believe those horrific atrocities are good, and you want to see more of them.

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    No. European countries and complicit Arab countries do not get a pass. The only government you should support are those that go directly against the genocide such as Yemen, Iran, Hezbollah.

    Hell, I’ve been a huge China simp for years, but even Chinas “neutrality”, even while leaning towards support for Iran, tows the line for me. European countries aren’t even neutral.

    “We have to support a genocide because…cheeto?” Isn’t an excuse, especially when they supported the genocide the same way under Biden.

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      I think the USA is finally loosing strength and change is coming, but still no one wants to mess with them. The two or three countries that may have a chance against them, are not fond of this idea. No one real is willing to stop Israel right now, because it is in fact a protectorate of the USA, but that doesn’t mean they support the genocide. Time is a luxury as well as a necessity right now.

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      The only government you should support are those that go directly against the genocide such as Yemen, Iran, Hezbollah.

      Can we simply agree that there’s no good government out there? You don’t have to support one of them, support the people.

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        Yemen has been tirelessly fighting the genocide the whole time, even though it got them bombed by the satanic West.

        Fuck you for denigrating them in the context of the Palestinian genocide, who do you think you are?

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          Why do you insist in wanting to support a government? You don’t have to, you can fight for something even without supporting any government or waving any flag. We are not in a football match.

          I honestly don’t know much about Yemen but given the quality of governments in the area i believe you could upset someone much more for defending Yemen government than for calling out any government in the world for being corrupted and evil. Iran government is a better example, they are fighting against israel but that doesn’t make them any less shit, they care about gaza and the genocide because it’s their “side” not because they are up to good.

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            You haven’t been following the genocide closely because you don’t really care about it. Otherwise you’d know that Yemen, despite being small and poor and isolated, has consistently blockaded the zionist entity throughout the genocide and has shut down their Red Sea trade routes completely, refusing to reopen them unless the genocide ends.

            Nobody else comes close to having helped the Palestinians as much and as consistently as Yemen. This is important.

            I’d trade a million of you for one more Yemeni anti-ship armament.

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              You talk about Yemen as if it was a football team, i encourage you to learn more about the country and the current situation.

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                I honestly don’t know much about Yemen

                i encourage you to learn more about the country

                Maybe take your own advice?

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                  Yes i don’t know much about Yemen. I haven’t read the history of the country and i’ve no idea who the leaders of the government are or how their political system works. Though i know that “Yemen” is not a football team and there’s a war in the country where different factions are fighting for power making the argument “Yemen is doing X” really vague.

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          Go ahead and point out any government in the world that is up to good and doesn’t treat its people like shit, also explain why supporting the people over a government is bullshit.

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            Fuck that idealistic bs. People are out there fighting a genocidal state while you’re masturbating in front of a mirror thinking of yourself as the good guy

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              Pointing out that we should support people and not governments taking advantage of a genocide is bullshit? To me It sound like you are trying to project some bullshit here, what exactly do you want?

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                Bombs falling on new york

                Present day anarchists are too pussies to blow shit up so i have to resort to cheering for north korea

                Do your part mate i don’t know what to tell yo