• stoy@lemmy.zip
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    3 days ago

    Every election here in Sweden and EU I come to the same conclusion:

    There are no good political parties, the best you can do is to vote for the least bad party, and hope that it works out.

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      2 days ago

      Except the ‘least bad’ party gets 0.8% votes and almost all the votes go to worst and second worst. What most people mean by ‘least bad’ is simply ‘less bad’, as in ‘less bad than the other one’. And even that ‘less bad’ classification can be troublesome to wrap your head around.

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        2 days ago

        Coming from Sweden, with proportional representation I can tell you that we do get niche parties elected for seats in the Riksdag (Swedish parliament) or Kommunstyrelse (municipal government) from time to time.

        So it isn’t out of the question

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      3 days ago

      Pretty much all over the world people say that and then race to vote for the second worst party/person because “the better one could never win.”

      Vote for who you most align with, anything less than that is just betraying yourself and prolonging the inevitable slide to the right.

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        The issue you are describing seems to mostly stem from the idiotic and unfair system of first past the post, Sweden has proportional representation, so I do end up voting for the party I mostly align with, even if it is a completely new party.

        I have voted for several different parties in the three normal elections, even at the same election day.

        Then we have the act of protest voting, as well as support voting. These are tactics you can use in a proper voting system with a healthy amount of political alliances.

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          Yea I’m in Canada and it’s that problem. We should be 8-9 years deep into ranked choice or similar but our centrist party that ran on that promise fucked it up big time because they realized that they’d probably never win an election ever again. Their entire platform basically depends on the Conservatives being such absolute trash that no one feels safe voting for our leftist, progressive party.

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        2 days ago

        Thank you. This incessant capitulation to the lowest common denominator is why across the world we are seeing a rise in regressive, right-wing ideology.

        People stopped fighting for better and have just consigned themselves to accepting literally the 2nd worst option out of fear that the worst option will succeed.

        It’s a shitty catch-22 that is fundamental aspect of electoralist politics and why I vehemently am against them as a political structure.