A year after promising viewers a “red tsunami” in the 2022 midterms, only to be left with egg on their faces after the GOP drastically underperformed, Fox News was once again wondering what went wrong after Democrats romped to victory in statewide elections on Tuesday night.

Despite recent polls showing President Joe Biden deeply underwater with voters and even losing to Donald Trump in several battleground states, the Democratic incumbent governor easily won victory over his MAGA-endorsed opponent in deep-red Kentucky. And over in Ohio, a state Trump won by eight points in 2020, voters overwhelmingly passed an amendment ensuring access to abortion care in the state’s constitution.

The continued drag that undoing Roe v. Wade has had on the GOP was especially apparent in Virginia, where Republican Gov. Glenn Youngkin had promised to implement a 15-week abortion ban if the GOP was able to gain unified control over the state’s General Assembly. Instead, not only were Youngkin’s hopes of a Republican sweep dashed, but the Democrats now control both chambers.

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    Hannity also groused that Republicans’ push to ban abortion in states across the country, as well as the reversal of the federal right to abortion, meant that “Democrats are trying to scare women into thinking Republicans don’t want abortion legal under any circumstances.”

    When Republicans keep saying things like “total abortion ban”, yeah, we get that impression.

    edit: fucking Texas is trying to make it illegal to drive to get around their abortion ban

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        Sometimes I wish we could go back to when they were mainly known for open beverage containers, but it was pretty fucked then too.

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          Every time I see Texas in the news I say a little prayer for the man who my Greatx4 (5?) Grandfather, who definitely had some looser morals around things like murder and escaping prison twice, shot. If it weren’t for their unfortunate ass, my family might still be in that awful place.

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        Not a violent person but I genuinely want to break things whenever I’m reminded of that. Just unbelievable from every direction, from people who preach about caring for children.

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          Unfortunately we still have a ways to go to protect our children from republicans. We need to ban all instances of underage marriage. I don’t give two shits if your parents are ok with it. Unless some evidence comes out that it’s actually beneficial for the child long term I don’t want to allow 16 year olds to get married.

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      Fucking Texas made it so that someone that presents male, whom all of their classroom mates referred to as he, can’t participate in a high school play as a male character.

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      Democrats are trying to scare women into thinking Republicans don’t want abortion legal under any circumstances

      Oh hun, you don’t need to blame Democrats for that. You’re spreading that message quite clearly yourselves.

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      Yep. It turns out that a great many people don’t fall for their bullshit gaslighting.

      ETA: Also, I think everyone given a chance to interact with Klannity should always ask when he’s going to be waterboarded.

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    “Republicans need to look at all of these numbers, and really think about what’s more important. Yes, most people that are Republicans are probably pro-life,” she stated. “And we love our babies. And I love being a mother. But what’s most important? Republicans taking over. And Republicans being able to keep our country!”

    Wasn’t expecting them to say this part out loud.

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      Remember this when any future conservative (I don’t care what party flag they’re flying) tries to claim they are about any policy. If they ever attempt to come up with a policy again.

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        Their problem is that they’ve been making abortion a wedge issue for so long, that it’s now impossible for them to back down. They’ve been catering to the religious right, pushing a message that life begins at conception and any form of abortion (and some birth control) is literally the same as murdering babies. And their base ate that shit up.

        Now they’re trying to backtrack, which leads to their hilarious message of basically “look, we’re going to have to kill a few babies to get into power, because power is more important.” Good luck trying to sell that.

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      So “killing babies” isn’t okay as far as medical, financial/home stability concerns…

      But it’s ok if it’s about winning elections…

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      They’re being really blatant about it all of a sudden. Is this sort of statement effective on Republicans voters? Do they not have any sort of cognitive dissonance when hearing one of their beloved Fox and Friends anchors saying this?

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    My crazy prediction is the only lesson the GOP will take from this is that they have to try to steal elections even harder.

    Keep voting at every legal opportunity you can people and great job yesterday!!

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      It’s not enough to vote.

      We need to be vigilant as we enter the presidential elections next year. Keep a close eye on secretaries of state or whomever certifies election results.

      2020 was a test run for the Alt-right and they have learned where the weaknesses are in the democratic process. They will most certainly attempt to steal the 2024 election by any means necessary, up to and including violence.

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        They’re still working on it:

        Four county elections offices in Washington state were evacuated Wednesday after they received envelopes containing suspicious powders — including two that field-tested positive for fentanyl — while workers were processing ballots from Tuesday’s election. The elections offices were located in King County — home of Seattle — as well as Skagit, Spokane and Pierce counties, the Secretary of State’s Office said in emailed news release. Source

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      “If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”

      • David Frum
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      So many things to fix in the US alone that would do the world some good and the only thing the GOP can agree to fix is elections. BIG SAD.

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      Vote in numbers too large to suppress.

      And because of the day Election day falls on next year:

      “Remember, remember, the 5th of November, The facist’s treason and plot; for there is a reason why facists and treason should never be forgot”

      (Someone better with words can probably improve this)

      Plan to take election day off next year. Take a vacation day, if you’re able, and if not, just plan not to show up to work. Stand in line. Get a camelbak or a big water bottle. But vote, because I’d rather start steering the right direction than crash into a wall.

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    “Democrats are trying to scare women into thinking Republicans don’t want abortion legal under any circumstances.”

    • Sean Hannity

    I think the GOP did that themselves last year in regards to the 10 year old girl who had to cross state lines into Indiana to get an abortion.

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      And don’t forget the “life of the mother” exceptions in places like Texas that can only be triggered if the woman is actively dying. If she’s not close enough to death, it is still “carry it to term or else.”

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        Hey, but the doctor and all the medical staff could bet their medical licenses that the legal gray area would favor them in a particular case.

        Of course it might be harder to practice medicine after the hospital execs consult with legal and fire your ass.

        But hey, there’s an off chance that legally you could get away with saving the life of the mother before death was imminent. Well, depending on the judge in Texas that day.

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          Of course it might be harder to practice medicine after the hospital execs consult with legal and fire your ass.

          Its also going to be hard to practice medicine when a distraught husband pays a visit to your office to discuss why you let their wife die. It’s Texas, too. So not only will a doctor have to get yelled at and threatened, he will be yelled at and threatened by the hysterically upset and armed man in his office who has nothing to lose.

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      Pretty sure Hannity is one of the Faux News shows Indiana’s AG was going on lying about it too

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    So, I went to Faux News and looked at their front page. The very top headline is GOP Flips New York Seat Democrats Held for Decades, Causing ‘Political Earthquake’.

    This is followed by 29 more stories, including important stories like Couple’s Viral ‘Taylor Swift Jar’ Has Wife Paying Whenever She Mentions the Star and Global Study Names the World’s Booziest Nations - The Top Three Will Surprise You.

    Finally, a full 30 stories down the front page, you eventually reach After Dismal Election Night, Republican Candidates Hammer Trump.

    As an aside, it’s cute how, when they want to celebrate and promote the feeling that their party is all one big happy family, they refer to themselves as “the GOP”, but when they’re trying to distance themselves from the party, suddenly it’s “Republicans”.

    Anyway, well done, everyone!

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    We all remember that 10-year-old rape survivor in Ohio and the repugs who demanded she give birth to her rapist’s baby.

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      I’m just going to point out that, in a bunch of states, if you give birth to your rapist’s baby, the rapist can get parental visitation rights.

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        They’re just trying to make America great again: the good old days where if you wanted a woman you could just rape her and she’d have to marry you to avoid the social shame!

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    Hannity: “Democrats are trying to scare women into thinking Republicans don’t want abortion legal under any circumstances.”

    Nah, you guys are doing just fine on that without any help at all.

    While the other cable news networks stuck with live special coverage for the rest of the evening, Fox News decided that its audience needed a break from the deflating electoral results for conservatives. After Hannity signed off at 10 p.m., Fox aired its regularly scheduled broadcast of “comedy” show Gutfeld!, which was pre-taped and didn’t make any mention of the elections.

    Gotta protect their snowflakes from any hint of reality until they can figure out how to spin it properly.

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      Nah, you guys are doing just fine on that without any help at all.

      “Damn, those democrats shat my pants again!”

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      Democrats are trying to scare women into thinking Republicans don’t want abortion legal under any circumstances

      if your opposition’s propaganda consists solely of unedited video clips of you speaking, it’s not propaganda

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      The problem is they are doing what their constituents want, they just don’t have enough of them to get them the power they want because they are evil bastards.

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        they are doing what their constituents want

        It’s worth noting that their constituents are an amalgam of fringe theocratic radicals and check-writing plutocrats. The whole reason Fox exists is that they realized long ago that their policy programs aren’t popular, they instead needed to add circuses to the bread and circuses to be relevant in any way

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      That’s the thing. Republican politicians have a corporate mentality. They pretend to care about the customers, but their true allegiance is to the shareholders. And that mentality has worked surprisingly well for them for decades. Pretend to care just enough about social issues, but don’t do anything too controversial, all the while enacting legislation that disproportionately assists the 1%. They had a good thing going.

      But they kept wanting more. They kept going back to the social policy well to get more voters because they weren’t getting enough buy-in on their fiscal policies. Now you’ve got more elected politicians willing to push unpopular social policy when just ten to fifteen years ago they knew better for the most part. This new batch of Republicans actually intend to enact their regressive policies when previously they were content with merely stymieing progress and loudly complaining.

      Now that they’ve reached a critical mass of people who don’t know better or don’t care, they have started enacting deeply unpopular policies. They don’t know our care how unpopular they are because they can’t imagine anything outside of their echo chambers. They’re listening to the loudest 10 people in the room while ignoring the quiet 200 who will only speak at the voting booth. And voters have finally had enough. They may not love what the democrats are doing, they may even think that the democrats are doing a terrible job, but they absolutely hate what the republicans are doing even more. I’m betting that a large number of apathetic voters are starting to show up.

      So republicans resort to every trick in the book to silence the majority who disagrees with them. Gerrymandering, purging voter rolls right before an election, closing poling places and limiting hours, restricting absentee voting, holding special elections during times when voter turnout has historically been very low, enacting voter ID laws… Every single trick they can think of so that only their voices count. And that still isn’t enough.

      They’re doing what the people who voted put them there to do. The only problem is that those people apparently don’t actually represent the majority, and republicans absolutely refuse to accept that.

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        Pretend to care just enough about social issues, but don’t do anything too controversial, all the while enacting legislation that disproportionately assists the 1%. They had a good thing going.

        Yeah, overturning Roe was the dog that caught the car. Now that they don’t have their main boogeyman drum (women everywhere aborting all the babies all of the time won’t someone think of the children!) to bang on they’ve got nothing. Savvy grifters like Turtle Interrupted never wanted to actually succeed in passing that kind of extremist legislation, but now the GOP balance has shifted too far down the scale of “pretending to be crazy in order to steal money vs being actually crazy”.

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    To offer my trivial little analysis:

    The GOP has happily made themselves into the Trumpism party even in elections where Trump isn’t even running.

    Those hard core Trump supporters are only interested in Trump himself (just like Trump is only interested in himself), and aren’t as likely to bother if he isn’t personally involved. To all but the Trump die hards, Trump is odious and that stink has rubbed off to make his detractors very active to fight the GOP at large.

    I fear that next year Trump will bolster GOP votes with his fanatics.

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    I still don’t think that the full impact of COVID is being accounted for in polling and voter outcomes. Yes the first wave hit blue areas hard and fast due to population density but with the vaccine and the ever growing amount of time it has been available I have to imagine it is almost exclusively hitting red areas now. COVID has not gone away but vaccinated people aren’t dying at nearly the rate of the unvaccinated of which that group is pretty exclusively GOP or at least Maga. When some of these elections were coming down to the thousands of voters 3 years ago what happens when thousands of dedicated GOP voters are now dead?

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      I did the math a few years ago because I couldn’t find anyone else who had published it. This is rough and IANAM (mathmagicman).

      Every single day 8,000 boomers and above die, and 12,000 people turn 18 and those numbers are actually accelerating. If you use existing data to estimate conservative/liberal and likely voters within those groups it works out to a delta of 10,000 per day on a national scale. That’s 5,000 votes switching every single day. That might not seem like alot. Because it really isn’t. Out of 155 million votes cast, 10,000 is .006 percent. But here’s the thing. It’s cumulative. And it just doesn’t stop. It is relentless. it’s 300k a month, 3.6 million per year. And that pace is accelerating. Between 2020 and 2024 it’s a 15 million vote difference. By 2028 it’s 30 million. It used to be that people age into conservatism. But that is not happening with millennials. The demographics are changing, and changing quickly. The most conservative group in the country is dying. While the most liberal group is rising.

      We just have to hold on to democracy for a few more years. This will all be behind us. Another 10k today.

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        I have a feeling you “aged in to conservatism” because that’s when you finally had money and humans are generally shit when it comes to “fuck you I got mine” but speaking as a millennial, that’s just not happening. My generation’s retirement plan is to die at our desks hopefully in a way that creates a lot of work for our bosses. Although on the less cynical side of things, I also tend to think that generally people are becoming more tolerant over time.

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        It used to be that people age into conservatism

        It used to be that being conservative did not require you being batshit insane.

        Yes batshit insane conservatives existed, but so did reasonable people supporting reasonable sounding policies by conservative politicians who behaved in a respectable manner.

        While I believe it’s still possible for reasonable people to be Conservative, it’s not possible for reasonable people to support Republicans with their mouth pieces like Magorie “Jewish Space Lasers” Green being treated like someone with opinions worth listening to.

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        Regarding the steadfast belief that “conservatism is dying”: no it isn’t. Christian schools, home schools, Christian colleges, and even regular schools, communities and colleges are pumping out kids that have the beliefs of their parents. I live in a rural area, and work (hypocritically) for a Christian based organization. I’m surrounded by young minds that are perfectly comfortable with the ideals of the religious right, and vote.

        Society has been saying it for years… We said it when I was back in college. “Bubba in the white house is going to be the best! We’ll undo all the hell Reagan and Bush did!” then Newt Gingrich (sounds like a disease…) made his “Promise to America™” and everything got fucked.

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      You need to keep in mind that 2023 COVID is a different beast than 2020 COVID. The currently most common strains tend to be less hard on the body as the virus has started to adapt to human hosts.

      I still wouldn’t recommend people to go unvaccinated but it’s not quite as suicidally irresponsible as it used to be. Still irresponsible, though.

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        Yeah, but the elderly GOP base is getting it for the 2nd or 3rd time without having been vaccinated. It’s just as hard on them if not harder.

        That said I don’t think it’s moving the needle as much as MAGA politics are.

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          What bizarro world do you live in? It’s no longer a novel virus. Most boomers have been exposed or infected by COVID, also a great number (majority) of them got vaccinated. So by now there are miniscule number of boomers without natural or vaccine immunity. The vaccines boosters do little here in terms of death, because very few boomers are currently dying from COVID.

          Hospitalization rate of over 65 was

          16.4 per 100,000 during the week ending August 26 2023

          Death rate is a fraction of that.

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        We’ve been talking about this since COVID hit. They’re too fucking stupid to accept the truth.

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      It also was and still is most fatal for older people, who generally lean more towards the Republican side.

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      I think there are also a couple more factors. In a time when early detection and treatment gets the best outcomes, the right-wingers are more likely to believe that it isn’t serious, so they’re less likely to test and less likely to try to get paxlovid (or be outside the 5-day grace period).

      And even if they know they’re sick early and want to get paxlovid, people who live in rural areas have less access to healthcare in general - and some of their doctors may not believe in paxlovid. Which really sucks for those people.

      All that said, the are definitely health care discrepancies for minorities, and those disproportionately affect Democrats (mostly).

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    Kayleigh McEnany actually seemed to correctly diagnose the problem. I was shocked. And then she started in on her solution:

    Tomorrow, I want the House of Representatives passing legislation for men to pay women child support from the moment of conception, legislation to make the child tax credit apply to the unborn

    Her solution to the vast majority of Americans rejecting GOP ‘fetal personhood’ extremism is to… go right back to trying to shove fetal personhood in through a back door. They really do think everyone else is even dumber than they are.

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      Her idea to increase SNAP funds for young mothers and add child support for pregnant women isn’t that bad. The funny thing is, Republicans will never go for it. They’re not a party of policies, they’re a party that proposes “gotcha” bills that mock government and tax cuts.

      There’s no way Republicans will support any of her ideas. It’s funny that someone on Fox News doesn’t understand that.

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        The idea of creating pregnancy support and a tax credit for pregnant women is fine. The idea of expanding child support and the child tax credit to pregnant women is all about expanding the legal definition of “child” to include fetuses.

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          Calling a fetus a child makes as much sense as calling a bee a fish. Incidentally, bees are known to the state of California to be a type of fish (for the purpose of California’s endangered species act).

          It is easier to expand an existing program than it is to create a new one.

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      They really do think everyone else is even dumber than they are.

      The one thing I agree with GOP on.

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    I just want to point out that, nationwide, moms for liberty candidates lost 92% of the elections they were involved in. America HATES MAGA

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      Thank fucking God. They are the worst.

      Their platform is literally “ban all the books that might make you, ya know, think”

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    it was time for the GOP to learn to love abortion.

    That might be pushing it, but they can learn to get over and deal with it.

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      learn to get over and deal with it.

      As soon as one Republican does this, ten more screech about having a federal ban. They are irreversibly fucked and I am here to see every moment of it.