Many of the forms of the Physical Love precept forbid pawns from sharing a bed with anyone other than a spouse but they all also give negative mood modifiers for lovin’ people other than a spouse. I thought the only way two pawns could engage in lovin’ was through sharing a bed. Am I missing something? Why give the negative mood modifier if it’s impossible for it to even happen? Are there mods that allow them to do lovin’ outside of bed and get the mood modifier?
I should have read the community name first…
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Be glad it wasn’t yet another war crime!
The Geneva Convention doesn’t allow sex outside of marriage. 💔💔
Can’t pawns do forbidden acts, just get a debuff?
If your religion forbids cheating, it’s a sin to hop in the wrong bed, and to get lovin’ with the wrong person.
Some of my colonists were engaged. One had free and accepted physical love, but the other had spouse only (strict). The game would not let me assign them to the same bed. If there is no way for them to have sex outside of sharing a double bed, then when will the mood debuff ever be applied?
Caveats and assumptions:
- I did not confirm that the wiki is accurate with the in game values for the various possible values for the precept.
- I only experimentally tried with spouse only (strict). It’s possible the wiki is incorrect and the other forms of spouse only don’t forbid bed sharing. I’m pretty sure the button to assign the abstinent pawn was simply gone. As soon as they were lovers I wanted them together to save a room. I think I would’ve clicked it even if there was a penalty.
- I only experimentally tried with the free and accepted precept pawn having the bed first. It’s possible that maybe having the free love pawn move into the abstinent pawn’s bed is allowed.
I get your point, sometimes you can tell them to do things they don’t wanna do and just take the mood debuff. But that’s entirely why I’m asking. Because I couldn’t even move them into the same bed at all. So it’s odd that there exists a mood debuff when it’s literally impossible for them to do the deed.
Point 3 seems to be the next thing to investigate but they’re already married now. Most of my pawns have free and accepted physical love, but I can try later tonight and see if a free and accepted pawn can move into an abstinent bed (even if an abstinent pawn can not move into another non-spouse’s bed).
You’re forgetting instances where it might not be forbidden when they are assigned a bed. Like when the idealigion changes afterwards.
For example, one of my pawns has two wives and an idealigion that forbids more than one, because that wasn’t his idealigion when he got the two wives.
Why wouldn’t he just get unassigned from the bed? Like when I break a wall in the prison every bed is now “for prisoners” and people get unassigned.
It should be unassigned, but Rimworld has a lot of moving parts, and you’ve got to make allowances for things that’s shouldn’t happen, but because of a string of events do end up happening.
Seems like a better alternative would be something like allowing anyone to share any bed but have increasingly harsh mood debuffs depending on how negatively they view sharing beds. This would avoid the weird “I’ll never share a bed unless I’m married! Unless of course, I was sharing a bed before I took up a new religion. That’s different.” The same way they don’t get mood debuffs for “awful barracks” for being assigned to an awful barracks but for sleeping in one. Like “-30 Slept with non-spouse” (in addition to the "-X engaged in lovin’ with non-spouse).
spouse only (strict) means they can only share a bed once they’re married I believe.
Lovin outside of a bed might be from a mod either vanilla expanded social interactions or romance expanded. Check if you have either of those installed.
I think there’s been a miscommunication. I don’t have any such mod and know of no way for them to have sex outside of sharing a bed, so I’m asking why the game prevents them from sharing a bed but also gives a mood debuff if they have sex when it’s impossible for the to have sex without sharing a bed.
It might be a situation that cannot happen in vanilla but they added it to cover non vanilla cases where that behavior could happen. Pure speculation though because i have no idea.
