It was a rather sombering thread, that echoed quite a bit of what I’ve been saying about .ml, the Triad, general toxicity of their Tankie “ideology” for months now.

I know @[email protected] was speaking of general toxicity, but the Triad is a huge chunk of it, the culture they create…festers it. They comprise the bulk of the hostility, I’ve personally seen it over and over and over again. All the “Just go back to Reddit” or “just another lib Redditor refugee” comments for someone that dared to have nuance.

Hell, I saw hex users fucking cheering .ee’s shutdown because it was some sort of psyop/CIA/fed/lib/“They didn’t perfectly agree with me” instance. They call feddit.org a “Nazi Zionist” instance for the crime…of not wanting to be arrested and complying with German law…

I haven’t looked to see if they’ve started any “celebratory” posts about Dubvee yet and I also don’t really want to, if they’re there, I already know what they’re going to say in it -_-

Unfortunately, I fear the problem was far worse than I thought.

Ptz speculated that the toxicity has “metastasized”. And you know what? He might be right, it seemed to be a lot better off 2 years ago, now…now I feel we might be losing the battle against the toxicity and I don’t think PieFed will be enough. Complacency has set in

My hope was that with enough instances defederating from .ml and the rest of the Triad, it would be a tad easier to take down toxic Tankies, trolls and their alts. But, few wanted to burn the bridge with the toxic main devs’ instance and now it might be too late. (Cheers to @[email protected] and the lemmy.cafe instance, one of the few of note to actually defederate from the entire triad!)

Like ptz said and I fully agree with, this place started with promise 2 years ago, but it appears to be ultimately morphing into 4chan (or like I’ve been saying, Voat 2.0) after all

Oh well, I’ve got some thick ass skin so I’ll probably be here till the end, till the last sane instance shuts down.

I’ll see you there @[email protected]

/Sadmemerant

Heck, maybe I’ll do a hail Mary and start an instance on a custom fork of lemmy with “normie proof” onboarding while dumping a few hundred in ADs (Maybe even on Reddit itself, HA!). I’ll flood this place with “normies” LMAO

  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    722·
    8 days ago

    If anyone thinks this is turning into 4chan or even worse, voat, you seriously have not experienced either of those.

    • cm0002@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      817·
      8 days ago

      If you put an average person in here with a minimal idea of what 4chan is, what would they say this place is like?

      When they inevitably get scared off because some .ml users were going off ranting about how such such article about NK that got posted was actually western propaganda and that “NK is all good actually”, what do you think they’ll tell others?

      This isnt about me or you, we have thick skin and can deal with the BS toxicity and have even become desensitized to it so it doesn’t seem that bad

      But we are not the average person and if we want the Threadiverse to succeed and maybe even threaten Reddit a bit, we need the normal users

      • Saleh@feddit.orgEnglish
        72·
        7 days ago

        I’ll take someone claiming that a post about North Korea is western propaganda over someone that is trying to explain, how supporting genocide is somehow the right political choice.

        I feel like the people that feel an over presence of “tankies” on instances that aren’t ml, hexbear or grad, are confused that the fediverse is notably more left-leaning than what they are used from reddit, Twitter or other corporate social media. Being exposed to maybe not being that “lefty” after all and more of the right side of the political spectrum here, seems to rub them the wrong way.

        Here’s a screenshot of the [email protected] As you can see, on the “tankie instance” News positive for Ukraine is getting the upvotes and stuff positive of Russia is getting the downvotes

        • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
          22·
          4 days ago

          Here’s a screenshot of the [email protected] As you can see, on the “tankie instance” News positive for Ukraine is getting the upvotes and stuff positive of Russia is getting the downvotes

          Would you like to check the modlogs next?

      • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        282·
        8 days ago

        If you put an average person in here with a minimal idea of what 4chan is, what would they say this place is like?

        What is that supposed to argue? That someone random might be ignorant?

        But we are not the average person and if we want the Threadiverse to succeed and maybe even threaten Reddit a bit, we need the normal users

        That’s all well and good, but we’re still, nowhere near 4chan, voat or even Twitter. Claiming that lemmy is “just as bad as voat” is nonsense and just serves to make people like me dismiss their opinions as someone ignorant and exaggerating.