USB-C will be around for a long time, it’s a strong standard. Wireless inductive charging won’t take over for a long time because it’s limited in speed, and WiFi/Bluetooth are much slower for data transfer.
Idk about the wifi thing, my phone should technically be able to do >500 Mbps to my computer yet it still transfers files at like 10 over wifi or usb
500 would be more than good enough but 10 is not
(It’s a OnePlus 12, age is not the issue)
I would also dislike the loss but I don’t think data speed is really the issue. Mostly that I couldn’t connect peripherals like my flash drive or sd card anymore
Is there any actual benefit for wireless charging? You still need to plug the charger somewhere and just feels like more expensive way that’s prone to more problems.
I am all for “research for the sake of research is enough and needs no further justification.” But I still feel like I am missing something here. Why are companies producing and selling it? Am I dumb?
Only scenario it seems useful is that you can replace your phone’s USB hardware with a small badUSB and rely on wireless charger while cops wonder why they can’t investigate your files on their device.
Wireless charging is nice for when you’re using your phone infrequently, such as at your desk while you’re working on something else. It sits there charging, you grab it to respond to a message then set it back down. No tail to worry about, it’s not getting tangled on other wires when you dare to move your phone, etc.
It’s really a feature I never cared about until I got a wireless charger as a gift
I guess from a consumer perspective, it can be more convenient (e.g. wireless charging in a car)
For me, I see it as a way to reduce wear on a charging port, or as an alternative if the port does fail.
I like it for the latter as I don’t like my devices to be inefficient but it makes me feel better that should the USB-C fail on my phone, it’s not game over for my phone.
Same. In winter it doubles as a pocket heater. Summer is worse, I wish electronics could also feasibly convert waste heat to cooling, but physics be like “yea, nah”.
It also is less energy efficient as running the juice directly through a cable of course is more efficient than creating a magnetic field that then induces juice on the other side to flow again.
It should be said that this is the principle of transformers, but they are built in an efficient way for it.
There’s the regular wireless charging where you need to put the phone on exactly the right position. That one is totally useless, since it’s even less flexible than cable charging. The only upside is that you don’t need to physically insert the cable. That’s pretty much worthless.
There’s another setup that allows you to charge over a larger area, e.g. a whole desk. That is expensive and/or much work, since it needs to be integrated into the whole area (e.g. desk) and it’s incredibly wasteful in terms of energy consumption that doesn’t actually end up charging the phone.
The only real upside I can see of wireless charging is that you can use it if your USB C port is worn out and doesn’t work any more.
Wifi is generally faster though, at least from phones. They often have horrible data transfer with MTP, and use USB2.0, so maybe 20-30MB/s real-world.
Wifi is much faster, I usually get double that or more on my phone. Way more fun to transfer videos etc, and you don’t need to plug it to another device to push something to network storage.
KDE Connect, when set up properly(pretty much does it automatically) alongside a linux system, you can access the entirety of your phone’s internal storage over LAN as if it were a network drive mounted on your PC.
USB-C will be around for a long time, it’s a strong standard. Wireless inductive charging won’t take over for a long time because it’s limited in speed, and WiFi/Bluetooth are much slower for data transfer.
USB-C is just the connector type, not a particular speed.
True, I appreciate the correction, the actual data transfer speed is determined by the USB version.
I will never forgive USB for the ridiculous naming
Agree, it’s a total trainwreck
Uuuhhhhh, copilot, is that you?!
480mbps is still faster than shitty cloud services
edit: yes I know about usb 1.0 and 1.1
USB 1.0 barely got any traction. I have never seen a device in the wild.
USB 1.1 exploded in use and was fantastic compared to the mess before. It was fast enough for most file sizes at the time.
USB 2.0 is still very usable today.
Idk about the wifi thing, my phone should technically be able to do >500 Mbps to my computer yet it still transfers files at like 10 over wifi or usb
500 would be more than good enough but 10 is not
(It’s a OnePlus 12, age is not the issue)
I would also dislike the loss but I don’t think data speed is really the issue. Mostly that I couldn’t connect peripherals like my flash drive or sd card anymore
take manufacturer’s claims
divide by 10
half it
half it again
you now have the max your device will ever reach, with the usual speeds being ~60% of that
(my isp says 300mbps, divide by 10, half, half, 7,5mbps, which i think i never saw since the speeds are actually from 3 to 4)
I can get like 300 Mbps on a speed test tho
That’s probably a problem with your router or receiving hardware btw unless you’ve confirmed otherwise
Especially if you’re in an area with a lot of other wifi signals or radio frequency interference
If it’s an ISP provided router you could probably ask for them to look at it
isp provided router
tried multiple devices, both wireless and wired, even with an name brand external wireless antenna
Middle of nowhere countryside.
Tried, they gave me the Deny, defend, depose treatment
Is there any actual benefit for wireless charging? You still need to plug the charger somewhere and just feels like more expensive way that’s prone to more problems.
I am all for “research for the sake of research is enough and needs no further justification.” But I still feel like I am missing something here. Why are companies producing and selling it? Am I dumb?
Only scenario it seems useful is that you can replace your phone’s USB hardware with a small badUSB and rely on wireless charger while cops wonder why they can’t investigate your files on their device.
I’ve had several phone where the USB socket stops working reliably. At that point it’s easier to use a wireless charger.
Yes, it’s usually pocket fluff in the socket and it can be picked out, but it takes some time and care to avoid damaging the socket.
My latest case (Otter) also has a cover that is awkward to open to plug in the lead, so there’s that too.
As a bonus the charger works with Apple and Android so very convenient as my kids are Macolytes.
Wireless charging is nice for when you’re using your phone infrequently, such as at your desk while you’re working on something else. It sits there charging, you grab it to respond to a message then set it back down. No tail to worry about, it’s not getting tangled on other wires when you dare to move your phone, etc.
It’s really a feature I never cared about until I got a wireless charger as a gift
I guess from a consumer perspective, it can be more convenient (e.g. wireless charging in a car)
For me, I see it as a way to reduce wear on a charging port, or as an alternative if the port does fail.
I like it for the latter as I don’t like my devices to be inefficient but it makes me feel better that should the USB-C fail on my phone, it’s not game over for my phone.
Convenience. Decor. It’s much easier to slap a phone on a charger. The chargers also look better than a cable laying around unplugged.
I have these battery packs that magnetically stick to the back of my phone and charge it. Just slap it on and forget about it.
It makes my phone hot and wastes a lot of power (I can also charge from the same battery packs using a cable, and I get noticeably more charge).
But it’s real convenient when you don’t want to worry about it. I use them at conventions or when I’m out hiking or skiing.
Same. In winter it doubles as a pocket heater. Summer is worse, I wish electronics could also feasibly convert waste heat to cooling, but physics be like “yea, nah”.
There are fans that attach to the backs of phones. Of course they use electricity as well.
Clipping a sterling engine and a radiator to the back of a phone could be fun.
It also is less energy efficient as running the juice directly through a cable of course is more efficient than creating a magnetic field that then induces juice on the other side to flow again.
It should be said that this is the principle of transformers, but they are built in an efficient way for it.
Transformer without a core (which makes them about 90% efficient, while wireless at 70%, if perfectly aligned, rest is heat).
There’s the regular wireless charging where you need to put the phone on exactly the right position. That one is totally useless, since it’s even less flexible than cable charging. The only upside is that you don’t need to physically insert the cable. That’s pretty much worthless.
There’s another setup that allows you to charge over a larger area, e.g. a whole desk. That is expensive and/or much work, since it needs to be integrated into the whole area (e.g. desk) and it’s incredibly wasteful in terms of energy consumption that doesn’t actually end up charging the phone.
The only real upside I can see of wireless charging is that you can use it if your USB C port is worn out and doesn’t work any more.
Wifi is generally faster though, at least from phones. They often have horrible data transfer with MTP, and use USB2.0, so maybe 20-30MB/s real-world. Wifi is much faster, I usually get double that or more on my phone. Way more fun to transfer videos etc, and you don’t need to plug it to another device to push something to network storage.
I passionately hate MTP and having to deal with a MTP device is a great way of ruining my day
i hate mtp until i see the 6 hours remaining on a wireless transfer and then i love mtp
How one would cut and paste videos from an android to a pc?
KDE Connect, when set up properly(pretty much does it automatically) alongside a linux system, you can access the entirety of your phone’s internal storage over LAN as if it were a network drive mounted on your PC.
Kde connect was also pretty slow for me, but not any slower than MTP
I was using the Windows version tho
Should we tell them about usb d?