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It just works*
*except WiFi and sound
The downvoters don’t understand the pain of installing bluez and asla patches on some unsupported laptop running ubuntu 8.04
We’ve come a long way
Also: suspend breaks everything and you think Cups is gonna print that? lmao
Oh and grub broke
You forgot having to use Ndiswrapper for your generic wifi card to half work.
Thanks for reminding me, I totally forgot about this period
Sorry hope I didn’t give you PTSD 😞
I’m currently using broadcom-wl, and I was wanting to price out a more Linux appropriate adapter, but I want a pci-e card that is capable of monitor mode/packet Injection and just haven’t been bothered to actually look that hard. Just made me grateful despite the hiccups that it is as easy to get going as it is.
Basically load any distro and use Bluetooth or wired mobile hotspot to get proper Wi-Fi working and go from there.
The last few computers I’ve purchased have let me put the card in monitor mode right out of the box. I even do pci passthrough to a kvm with them.
I can’t even remember the last time I messed with drivers outside of installing amd graphics for rocm support. The open source drivers seem faster for games. It’s weird how much stuff just works out of the box now.
Last time I installed windows on hardware it was a saga to get everything working. You even have to modify the win11 installer to allow a local account without using ms365 but I guess it’s more friendly or whatever’s peoples excuse is. Windows does work pretty good as a VM with the fedora qemu drivers if you feel like running microsoft malware on your network like it’s the early 2000s.
The card I have now was purchased explicitly for handoff and continuity support in macOS for a hackintosh project.
Seeing ndiswrapper just brought back a twitch in my eye. I don’t miss WiFi dongles / cards one bit.
I think that’s the reason why they’re being downvoted. It’s not true anymore. It used to be an issue, sure. But the same can be said about reinstalling windows without drivers.
Ahh, the bad old days where you’d do a clean install and windows would be an absolute basket case until you manually installed every driver. And then after all that you’d still have one unknown device in device manager that you’d pull your hair out trying to find drivers for.
Now you can install windows, do a windows update, and everything is good to go 90% of the time. And don’t get me started on linux, we’ve never been closer to “it just works” than we are today.
Good luck installing your drivers on a fresh copy of Windows if your network card didn’t come with a physical installation disc, because if you have to download your drivers without a network card you’re going to have serious trouble.
There was a time period where it was absolutely easier to set up a fresh Linux distro than a fresh Windows install, because the Linux distro could use your Ethernet card to download drivers even if WiFi didn’t work but Windows couldn’t use either of them.
Yeah everything after 12.04 has pretty much worked for me no problem (on thinkpads). And nowadays I spend all my time on my steam deck.
In my view we’ve been in the linux golden age for years
I can’t use bluetooth and wifi didn’t work out of the box sound worked flawlessly but wifi I had to mess around and I don’t remember how I fixed it and bluetooth I still can’t make work the bluetooth thing just crashes straight away and the terminal insists I don’t have any bluetooth anything even though I do and it works fine on windows and I’m using mint
It always depends if you have proprietary hardware. I have multiple Macs at home I use as servers on Linux and the Broadcom wifi cards are a mess. But once you know what to do, it works well.
I’m using all pretty normal hardware it’s standard stuff you’d put in a gaming computer the motherboards the problem and that’s just whatever the most recent asus AM5 itx motherboard is
This. When Ubuntu released my mind was blown. All those things almost worked that I never get to work on Mandrake Linux
Wtf dude how did you make bluetooth work
If your WiFi randomly slows down to less than dialup speed, make sure to disable power saving in NetworkManager.
Also Proton made playing your back catalogue of games easier but it’s definitely not a silver bullet.
Also Ubuntu, Debian and their respective derivatives have the most resources if you need help. Don’t use Void unless you have a GF who is also willing to do tech support.
Also Mozilla needs their asses kicked for not properly supporting touch like Chromium but this isn’t a Linux issue.
Also Linux is the only OS where you have to know what a compositor is and you have to be mindful because the wrong compositor can break your game.
Where can I find a tech support GF?
Drink water bro
I had this problem whit my Linux mint wifi drivers, after asking for help and being ignored a couple of times I asked for other mint-like distro recommendations because the wifi on mint didn’t work. The mfs immediately run off to help me fix it and wrote me an script to run everytime the wifi stopped working. It’s been like 7 years with the same pc and Mint and only needs to run the script everytime it have a kernel update.
Oh it does *If your vendor does not suck
…and backlight controls, and network printers, and scanners…
I felt this to the bone
Just installed windows on a new hardrive and even that muthafucker couldn’t get the audio driver to work properly!
Ubuntu on my system just works, wifi card sound bluetooth, no drivers nothing plug and play, like All things should be.
Well on my laptop ( that came with windows) the wifi and bluetooth cause an issue with windows , but with linux mint they were just working ! So idk !
Same here but bluetooth and sound
Sound does not work on windows ? Since I use that laptop for uni and my uni has some windows specific apps to be used ( more like ms office plugins) it kinda sucks !
“Sound not working” is the simplified version… im not quite sure what the source of the problem was and i was originally pretty sure that it was just a hardware thing. Sound worked* on my toshiba but would randomly do horrible sounds, like a really loud buzz… it wasnt the common noise interference.
The frecuency varied between 10s in a good day to 1s and of course, time between events wasnt constant. That made listening to music or watching videos a total pain in the ass.
Looked for it on forums, it was something related to my laptop model in particular and eventually i just let it go and accepted my fate. Driver up to date, of course.
The day i switched to debian the problem just vanished…
No, its atxhuall, like dis:
Apple enters the chat
Me with Pop!_OS.
No messing, just install and everything looks good and works from the get go.
Unless some steam package breaks your entire desktop.
Luckily for me I actually read the output of the terminal before I hit yes 😂
Yes, do as I say!
Noone can afford a baby. Linux is free!
I got my first full linux distro at around that age too. High speed internet was a luxury back then!
openSuSE, she’s my first time🦎♥️
I love openSUSE too. Ended my distro-hopping.
Mfw I spent the past 4 days setting up a fully encrypted laptop on Debian with access to AUR packages, a windows VM, and docker containers running *ARR stack with jellyfin, home assistant, and a website.
Me in 2012 after spending weeks downloading missing library after missing library to compile Gnome Shell on some irrationally obscure distro.
Hahahaha yes exactly. Linux for life
Me when Overwatch just works on Garuda after getting 0.5 fps on other distros.
society really do be changing
Hopefully in the next few years we finally stop living in a year.
I really hope society want to have babies again, with a decent context
Dumb and poor people popping out babies like it’s the 1950s. Roe v Wade overturned in the states does not help.
that would explain the proliferation of fuckhead eugenicists commenting shit like this, if it were true.
What do you mean with a decent context?
Can’t speak for them, but for myself the prospect of having both parents out of the house working while some sort of state sponsored babysitter raises our children is an incredibly shitty way to have a “family.”
both parents out of the house working
This was largely the norm even in the western world up until the late 1940s. What sucks is that in the process we’ve lost “the village” to help raising kids and now couples just try and power through on their own.
In addition, multigenerational families can help a lot. Once my partner and I have kids, it’s gonna be a huge help because her cultural background is from South Asia, so her parents fully expect to (and want to!) be significantly involved in raising their grandkids, especially while we’re working.
Basically, Family economy and family nuclei mental health
I don’t get it
linux is your baby now
