• corm@sopuli.xyz
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    1 year ago

    The downvoters don’t understand the pain of installing bluez and asla patches on some unsupported laptop running ubuntu 8.04

    We’ve come a long way

    Also: suspend breaks everything and you think Cups is gonna print that? lmao

    Oh and grub broke

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            1 year ago

            I’m currently using broadcom-wl, and I was wanting to price out a more Linux appropriate adapter, but I want a pci-e card that is capable of monitor mode/packet Injection and just haven’t been bothered to actually look that hard. Just made me grateful despite the hiccups that it is as easy to get going as it is.

            Basically load any distro and use Bluetooth or wired mobile hotspot to get proper Wi-Fi working and go from there.

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              The last few computers I’ve purchased have let me put the card in monitor mode right out of the box. I even do pci passthrough to a kvm with them.

              I can’t even remember the last time I messed with drivers outside of installing amd graphics for rocm support. The open source drivers seem faster for games. It’s weird how much stuff just works out of the box now.

              Last time I installed windows on hardware it was a saga to get everything working. You even have to modify the win11 installer to allow a local account without using ms365 but I guess it’s more friendly or whatever’s peoples excuse is. Windows does work pretty good as a VM with the fedora qemu drivers if you feel like running microsoft malware on your network like it’s the early 2000s.

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        Seeing ndiswrapper just brought back a twitch in my eye. I don’t miss WiFi dongles / cards one bit.

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      I think that’s the reason why they’re being downvoted. It’s not true anymore. It used to be an issue, sure. But the same can be said about reinstalling windows without drivers.

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        Ahh, the bad old days where you’d do a clean install and windows would be an absolute basket case until you manually installed every driver. And then after all that you’d still have one unknown device in device manager that you’d pull your hair out trying to find drivers for.

        Now you can install windows, do a windows update, and everything is good to go 90% of the time. And don’t get me started on linux, we’ve never been closer to “it just works” than we are today.

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          Good luck installing your drivers on a fresh copy of Windows if your network card didn’t come with a physical installation disc, because if you have to download your drivers without a network card you’re going to have serious trouble.

          There was a time period where it was absolutely easier to set up a fresh Linux distro than a fresh Windows install, because the Linux distro could use your Ethernet card to download drivers even if WiFi didn’t work but Windows couldn’t use either of them.

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        Yeah everything after 12.04 has pretty much worked for me no problem (on thinkpads). And nowadays I spend all my time on my steam deck.

        In my view we’ve been in the linux golden age for years

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        I can’t use bluetooth and wifi didn’t work out of the box sound worked flawlessly but wifi I had to mess around and I don’t remember how I fixed it and bluetooth I still can’t make work the bluetooth thing just crashes straight away and the terminal insists I don’t have any bluetooth anything even though I do and it works fine on windows and I’m using mint

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          It always depends if you have proprietary hardware. I have multiple Macs at home I use as servers on Linux and the Broadcom wifi cards are a mess. But once you know what to do, it works well.

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            I’m using all pretty normal hardware it’s standard stuff you’d put in a gaming computer the motherboards the problem and that’s just whatever the most recent asus AM5 itx motherboard is

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      This. When Ubuntu released my mind was blown. All those things almost worked that I never get to work on Mandrake Linux