• Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
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    2 days ago

    I think his criticism against the general user behaviour here (in the Threadiverse) is spot on. Yes, it is currently really bad, and I understand why he’s burned out. Or why the lemm.ee admins got burned out too.

    At those times I feel like the Fediverse needs quieter corners, barely federated to the rest, developing different cultures. Kind of like Beehaw does.

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      Brace yourself: it is about to get worse. r/RedditAlternatives has some interesting posts saying how Reddit is about to ditch their modmail in exchange for their “chat” function (that has never worked correctly… ever).

      Apparently all/most social media these days has taken an extremist turn - e.g. supporters of Luigi feel emboldened to rant and rave against instance admins and mods by virtue of the “righteousness” of their cause, ignoring things such as how dubvee.org is located in the USA, and therefore the instance admin could end up in an actual, irl and literal concentration camp by allowing that content onto their machine. Shutting his instance down is the only sane option in that context.

      Whereas him leaving is just for personal reasons of being burnt-out, as we can well understand - humans can so exceedingly toxic and Lemmy, by virtue of connecting humans, can thus be a conduit to a great deal of shit (especially directed at an admin/mod).

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        Brace yourself: it is about to get worse. r/RedditAlternatives has some interesting posts saying how Reddit is about to ditch their modmail in exchange for their “chat” function (that has never worked correctly… ever).

        *rolls eyes* “Great”.

        I might be wrong, but I think this whole issue boils down to four vices brought from Reddit: assumptions, decontextualisation, genetic fallacy, oversimplification. Those four on their own already make social media hostile, but if you couple them with political engagement (otherwise a great thing), you’ll get people who genuinely see no difference between “they euthanised a 11yo dog with cancer” and “they kill puppies”.

        Or between “free Luigi” and “$CEO_name needs a Luigi in their life”. Both show support to the same cause, but only the later can be reasonably understood as a call to violence (to the point it’d bring the admin troubles.)

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      2 days ago

      I completely agree! I was wondering if I should try this out to see if it helps developping unique cultures, but also help growing the fediverse.

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        It sounds like a good idea, if you have the time+skill+money to do it.

        Odds are that your instance won’t be big. But at the same time, you’d have an easier time moderating it, specially if you only federate it with “cleaner” instances. (With “cleaner” meaning “that don’t post content you’d remove”).

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      2 days ago

      Absolutely. Our developers, admins and moderators deserve much more support rather than all the complaining they receive.

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        Gotta be honest with you: I’m partially at fault of this, too.

        It’s simply too easy to hop into [email protected] and criticise the decisions others take. I do this all the time, but I almost never take into account their burdens.