Every year, tech reviewers position the latest chip as much better than the old one, and the same thing happens next year, and the next. The Snapdragon 8 Elite was better than the Gen 3, which was better than the Gen 2, and so on.

If the “flagship” chips are so good, why not just stop to save cost? Why upgrade the chipset every year with minimal gains?

If everyone stuck with the same generation of chip, smartphones could be cheaper (good for consumers) OR profit margins could be increased (good for companies). Or maybe a mix of both.

What drives the yearly update in chips? AI maybe?

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    Because the development of new Smartphone SOC has been very strong, and the new ones really are better in multiple ways. The gains are far from minimal. There are also huge improvements in display, camera and modem technology. For the processing power the improvements are especially big when you look at PPW figures.

    Regarding cheap phones, you can get very feature rich very usable smartphones dirt cheap now, that are both way better and way cheaper than just a few years ago. It used to be that cheap phones lacked features like GPS and NFS, even motion sensors could be limited, and they certainly didn’t have bluetooth. Now all that is generally included even in cheap phones, and they have good screens too, even a modest IPS screen which is dirt cheap can be pretty good nowadays. So the progress is for all.

    My wife just bought a phone that was cheaper than her old phone, but still it’s is way better.

    The reason they all make better phones is due to this thing we call competition. If all brands except one stopped making better phones, the one that continues making them better will take marketshare from everybody else, and have by far the best profits, because the highest profits are with the best phones.

    PS: Something that is also new in “standard” phones is that they have way better water protection. It used to be you would have to buy an ugly bulky phone to have that, now you can get standard phones with good IPS ratings, so you don’t have to worry about using them in the rain.

    Contrary to you, I find the continued development of better phones amazing. Latest phone I bought was twice what I thought I’d ever spend, and that was because I wanted a good camera. The new Cameras are so freaking great, that if you ever tried taking pictures with an old film camera, that needed the film developed at a shop to get them on paper.
    What we have now is way beyond what I ever imagined possible, but really so is just about everything with a modern smartphone.
    They really are marvels of technology that some people just take for granted.
    But research the SOC, The Camera, GPS or the motion sensors, even a modest motion sensor utilize quantum theory technology, comparing the synchronization of 2 meeting light waves, and the feature cost less than a dollar to make!

    This is what the future was supposed to be, unfortunately only smartphones have delivered beyond our dreams, everything else is turning to shit.

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      Yeah, budget phones have gotten really good. That makes sense, the companies have a financial incentive to make the better phone than everyone else.

      Kind of crazy that we mere humans have developed these super-advanced silicon wafers that can do millions of operations every second and we develop new, better ones every year.

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      its like you are responding to a different question. you are speaking about cheap phones, while the question was about recent years flagship phones chipsets.

      what is that so large difference between this years flagship chip, and yesteryears flagship chip? and the difference between yezteryears and the one before that?
      is it really a large difference, like reviewers tell? it feels like comparing intel 12th gen and 13th gen CPUs and telling there is a large difference, the newer ones are so much better you need to get them IMMEDIATELY.

      again, the question is not about developments over a decade. bluetooth and gyroscope has been common for a decade now even in cheap phones.

      and I find it amazing how hard they are locking down our phones, like as if it was still owned by the manufacturer, rented by the user. google is doing the most of the work to enable countries to forcibly lock in citizens to malware infested systems of the factory. it couldn’t have happened without something like play “protect”

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            I absolutely answer the questions, what’s your problem?
            What part of the question is not answered in my reply?

            Am I not free to ad my opinion too?

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              I have not found an answer to this part:

              I realized I just quoted the first 3 paragraphs of the post, so lets stay at the clarification. I haven’t found the answer to OPs question.

              And to clarify what I don’t understand: each year flagship phone’s performance don’t seem to increase significantly. Regarding real world performance, not benchmarks.
              That’s why the question is why don’t they keep the previous chipset until more meaningful gains. As OP suggested, they could either lower the price, or have more profit. Users would not feel the difference, and there’s plenty of other things the manufacturer can improve or experiment with.

              If the concern is that people would say “ah it’s the same chipset!” and they wouldnt buy it, then the manufacturer could just replace that with another one that has roughly the same cost and performance.

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      I disagree. New smartphones may have a few better specs, but are overall worse than older models.

      For example, they are getting bigger and bigger and can’t be operated one handed any more, even with Androids one-handed mode, because the zoom makes everything tiny.

      Newer phones become hotter, batteries more likely to turn into spicy pillows.

      More bloatware preinstalled, like AI stuff or “AR Emoji” etc.

      The camera notches are growing too, even though most people would be fine with notchless cameras.

      They are getting heavier and thicker too. In 2015 we had 5.1mm 98g phones. Not even a notch. It all went downhill from there.

      And don’t even get me started on the prices.

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        Well it’s not ALL progress, personally I’d like the notification LED and the mini jack back.
        But overall, I think modern smartphones are amazing.