Yeah well it’s hard when you hear all your life if you mess up once you blow the transmission,.which is a several grand repair, nobody with a manual will ever let you practice on their car and well hey automatics are everywhere and don’t have that headache.
I’ve nearly shifted into 2nd gear from 4th before, the car was NOT happy, but there were no explosions. Granted, I didn’t fully let up the clutch, but still. Mistakes happen.
I shift from 4th into 2nd all the time when in city traffic before taking a turn, so I’m pretty confused why that would be an issue.
Unless you wanted to shift up and brainfarted and shifted down instead. But it’s pretty hard to hammer in a gear that is way too low for your current speed. There will be a lot of physical resistance and that grinding noise before the gear snaps in.
I was going highway speeds, I was going from 4th to 5th but decided to go back into 4th (or something to that effect, it was a while ago now). The shifting itself was easy because I had the clutch in, but as soon as I started to lift off the clutch it got pissed
nobody with a manual will ever let you practice on their car
I’m sorry that happened to you. IMO folks are way more precious about their manual transmissions than they need to be. I’ve taught several people to drive stick – including myself, in a brand-new car I drove home from the dealer in rush-hour stop-and-go traffic – and it’s never hurt anything. (That brand-new car still had its original clutch when it was sadly totaled by a falling tree, 100k miles later.)
Same, I learned on a brand new car, on my own, and taught a couple other people with it, and it still had the original clutch when the transmission linkage broke at 187k (basically totaled at that point, just pulling out enough to get to the transmission would have cost more than the car was worth at that point… Low end Chevy’s don’t hold much value as it turns out)
The clutch is meant to slip, that’s literally how they work. As long as you aren’t riding it partially engaged for hundreds or thousands of miles, you probably won’t burn it out. If they were as delicate as people treated them, they wouldn’t have been the choice for racing for as long as they were after automatics hit the scene.
Nah, they just don’t want you to drive their car. Chance of a money shift is extremely low, and it doesn’t usually happen while learning. Money shifts really happen when you are trying to drive too fast, and you downshift more than 2 gears quickly. Most learners have trouble keeping the RPMs up high enough to money shift. I was perpetually shifting at 1.3k when learning and you can pretty much go from 6 to 2 without money shifting at those low revs.
Nah, you just can’t without being a complete psychopath I guess force in a too wrong gear, the sync won’t be able to spin so fast that you can actually put in a ridiculous gear.
Yeah well it’s hard when you hear all your life if you mess up once you blow the transmission,.which is a several grand repair, nobody with a manual will ever let you practice on their car and well hey automatics are everywhere and don’t have that headache.
They may have exaggerated the risk of a money shift a tiny bit. Stalling is easy, but blowing the car up has to be hard.
I’ve nearly shifted into 2nd gear from 4th before, the car was NOT happy, but there were no explosions. Granted, I didn’t fully let up the clutch, but still. Mistakes happen.
I shift from 4th into 2nd all the time when in city traffic before taking a turn, so I’m pretty confused why that would be an issue.
Unless you wanted to shift up and brainfarted and shifted down instead. But it’s pretty hard to hammer in a gear that is way too low for your current speed. There will be a lot of physical resistance and that grinding noise before the gear snaps in.
I was going highway speeds, I was going from 4th to 5th but decided to go back into 4th (or something to that effect, it was a while ago now). The shifting itself was easy because I had the clutch in, but as soon as I started to lift off the clutch it got pissed
I’m sorry that happened to you. IMO folks are way more precious about their manual transmissions than they need to be. I’ve taught several people to drive stick – including myself, in a brand-new car I drove home from the dealer in rush-hour stop-and-go traffic – and it’s never hurt anything. (That brand-new car still had its original clutch when it was sadly totaled by a falling tree, 100k miles later.)
Same, I learned on a brand new car, on my own, and taught a couple other people with it, and it still had the original clutch when the transmission linkage broke at 187k (basically totaled at that point, just pulling out enough to get to the transmission would have cost more than the car was worth at that point… Low end Chevy’s don’t hold much value as it turns out)
The clutch is meant to slip, that’s literally how they work. As long as you aren’t riding it partially engaged for hundreds or thousands of miles, you probably won’t burn it out. If they were as delicate as people treated them, they wouldn’t have been the choice for racing for as long as they were after automatics hit the scene.
That’s not true, a money shift is very rare.
If you were near me I would help you learn on any of my stick vehicles, it’s pretty easy one you have some practice.
Nah, they just don’t want you to drive their car. Chance of a money shift is extremely low, and it doesn’t usually happen while learning. Money shifts really happen when you are trying to drive too fast, and you downshift more than 2 gears quickly. Most learners have trouble keeping the RPMs up high enough to money shift. I was perpetually shifting at 1.3k when learning and you can pretty much go from 6 to 2 without money shifting at those low revs.
Nah, you just can’t without being a complete psychopath I guess force in a too wrong gear, the sync won’t be able to spin so fast that you can actually put in a ridiculous gear.
And reverse is usually not synced so even harder.