All from in this thread in [email protected] about a chant at a British music festival where an artist said “death, death to the IDF”.

After other users were quoting that chant in the comments and had comments removed and banned, the hero of our story, @[email protected] (appearing as “acargitz”) pointed out that under international law, fighting an occupying force is legitimate. But apparently not under world news rules, as their removed comments and the many explanations from mods make clear in the thread.

Equally against the rules is the call for the eradication of an organisation or business, even without an explicit call to violence against individual members of the business.

In the same thread: user @[email protected] had comments removed for being anti-American “(again)”, though I couldn’t see the first time. It’s not even clear to me how the removed comments were anti-American.

Bonus points for the “DC Comics” removal reason. Though this seems to be incompetence, rather than malice.

  • jordanlund@lemmy.world
    15·
    23 hours ago

    I’m sorry, but you’re absolutely wrong in that.

    Communities get created by individuals and they do, in fact own them. They are moderated in accordance with the rules outlined in the sidebar.

    If you don’t like those rules, feel free to create your own community, with hookers and blackjack.

    That’s actually how [email protected] was created. The mod there reached out and asked “Hey, since [email protected] doesn’t allow self posts and videos, would you mind if I created a community that does?”

    I was like “Dude, you don’t need MY permission! Go for it!” When they set it up, I even linked to it as a partner community from the politics sidebar.

    I really like being able to direct people to the correct community when I have to remove a post.

    • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      23 hours ago

      Wrong

      A community is a social unit (a group of people) with a shared socially-significant characteristic, such as place, set of norms, culture, religion, values, customs, or identity

      A group of people. That you are ONE of, who has powers to police the community per agreed upon rules, and to jot abuse those powers. You abuse your powers, according to the community en masse.

      I have no problem with the rules, don’t strawman. I ahbe a problem with your enforcement of tbe rules, which is arbitrary and often sexist, and often not based on any stated rule at all.

      That this is your response to being called a shitty abusive mod is telling. Way to be so bad at your job, a shit ton of people hate the way you do it. Wow, good job buddy

      • jordanlund@lemmy.world
        16·
        22 hours ago

        The community doesn’t get to set the norms on lemmy. That’s done first by the instance admins, then by the creator of the community, then by the moderators of the community.

        If you aren’t one of the above, you don’t get a say in how that community is run. You are welcome to participate, within the established guidelines, or not.

        If you can’t, or won’t abide by the rules of a given community:

        • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          8 hours ago

          I did abide by the stated rules of the community. I had comments deleted and was permabanned anyway. With no explanation on which specific thing was wrong. As you’ve been told ad nauseum, you little weaselly worm.

          We literally know you are abusing your powers by refusing to listen to members of the community, that is entirely the criticism here. Learn to read, kiddo. We do get a “say,” and we say you’re shit.

          • jordanlund@lemmy.world
            12·
            4 hours ago

            You got permabanned repeatedly pushing a debunked election conspiracy theory. Get the fuck over yourself.

              • jordanlund@lemmy.world
                11·
                3 hours ago

                You’d have to go state by state, but here you go to get you started:

                California:

                https://elections.sbcounty.gov/faqs/not-connected-to-internet/

                "No. According to California Elections Code section 19205, “no part of a voting system shall be connected to the internet at any time, or electronically receive or transmit election data through any exterior communications network.”

                Colorado:

                https://coloradonewsline.com/2024/10/15/colorado-voting-machines-not-connected-to-the-internet/

                "Most counties in Colorado have upgraded their voting systems equipment since 2020 to models that physically cannot connect to the internet, and those that rely on older machines are statutorily required to disable any wireless capability.

                Election officials say that even the older models do not create a vulnerability in the voting system, as some conservative politicians and activists claim."

                Texas:

                https://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/conducting/security-update.shtml

                “No voting system is ever connected to the internet at any point - either when votes are being cast or when they are being counted. (Sec. 129.054, Texas Election Code).”

                Washington D.C.

                https://dcboe.org/getmedia/0af1fe48-d63c-4ec5-8bcf-ca61f2c2de5e/Cyber-Security-detail.pdf

                “It is important to note that DC’s voting machines are never connected to the internet; voting machines have tamper- resistant seals; and our machines are audited regularly while we continually update our equipment with the latest technologies and protections.”

                You can do the other 47 states yourself, I’m not going to spoon feed you.

                • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  2·
                  1 hour ago

                  So what’s with Rockland County’s current case then? Doesn’t seem debunked to me at all, judge doesn’t think so either

                  https://rocklandtimes.com/2025/06/19/state-supreme-court-could-order-hand-recount-of-rocklands-2024-ballot/

                  And just so we are clear, you permaban every single user who says the 2024 election wasn’t fair?

                  Let’s look at each line and source pertaining to election fraud and machines being connected to the internet:

                  Trump stole election software in 2020 (7).

                  Starlink, Elon’s satellite company, was installed in some voting machines across the country (10) and may have interfered with vote tabulation. Voting machines were found to be connected to the internet (11). An independent report on voting machines concluded that tabulation tampering was possible with current voting machines, so hand counts are vital (12). In September, Politico had an investigation finding Russian malware on a state voter registration database (13). Also, there were malicious fake texts from fake DNC organizations, connected to Elon who donated to them, that were fishing voter info (14).

                  (7) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/trump-jeffrey-epstein-tapes

                  Colorado town of Kiowa. Footage obtained by Reuters through a public-records request shows Elbert County Clerk Dallas Schroeder, the county’s top election official, fiddling with cables and typing on his phone as he copied computer drives containing sensitive voting information.

                  The episode is among eight known attempts to gain unauthorized access to voting systems in five U.S. states since the 2020 election. All involved local Republican officeholders or party activists who have advanced Trump’s stolen-election falsehoods or conspiracy theories about rigged voting machines, according to a Reuters examination of the incidents. Some of the breaches, including the one in Elbert County, were inspired in part by the false belief that state-ordered voting-system upgrades or maintenance would erase evidence of alleged fraud in the 2020 election. In fact, state election officials say, those processes have no impact on the voting systems’ ability to save data from past elections.

                  The incidents include a North Carolina case, first reported last week by Reuters, in which a local Republican Party leader threatened to get a top county election official fired or have her pay cut if she didn’t give him unauthorized access to voting equipment. In southern Michigan, a pro-Trump clerk who has expressed support for the QAnon conspiracy theory on social media defied state orders to perform maintenance on a voting machine on the unfounded belief that doing so could erase proof of alleged fraud. In another Michigan case, a Republican activist impersonated an official from a made-up government agency in a plot to seize voting equipment.

                  Four experts in voting law told Reuters the extent of these balloting-data breaches is unprecedented in modern U.S. elections. The violations are especially worrying, say election officials, because they break the chain of custody over ballots and tabulating equipment. Such safeguards allow for the tracking of exactly who has handled sensitive voter data; they are essential to making elections secure and to resolving any challenges or fraud allegations.

                  There’s more but um, okay, we can see that this point is well supported.

                  (10) https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/1gnxqmw/elon_musks_company_starlink_praised_by_tulare/

                  This is literally a link to a local news station announcing Starlink being installed on machines. Can’t be more straightforward or factual.

                  (11) www.nbcnews.com/news/ncna1112436

                  It was an assurance designed to bolster public confidence in the way America votes: Voting machines “are not connected to the internet.”

                  But that is an overstatement, according to a team of 10 independent cybersecurity experts who specialize in voting systems and elections. While the voting machines themselves are not designed to be online, the larger voting systems in many states end up there, putting the voting process at risk.

                  “We found over 35 [voting systems] had been left online and we’re still continuing to find more,” Kevin Skoglund, a senior technical advisor at the election security advocacy group National Election Defense Coalition, told NBC News.

                  “We kept hearing from election officials that voting machines were never on the internet,” he said. “And we knew that wasn’t true. And so we set out to try and find the voting machines to see if we could find them on the internet, and especially the back-end systems that voting machines in the precinct were connecting to to report their results.”

                  The three largest voting manufacturing companies — Election Systems &Software, Dominion Voting Systems and Hart InterCivic — have acknowledged they all put modems in some of their tabulators and scanners. The reason? So that unofficial election results can more quickly be relayed to the public. Those modems connect to cell phone networks, which, in turn, are connected to the internet.

                  The largest manufacturer of voting machines, ES&S, told NBC News their systems are protected by firewalls and are not on the “public internet.” But both Skoglund and Andrew Appel, a Princeton computer science professor and expert on elections, said such firewalls can and have been breached.

                  Hmm, and here’s another pbs article too btw: www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/voting-experts-warn-of-serious-threats-for-2024-from-election-equipment-software-breaches

                  Election technology expert Kevin Skoglund, who also signed the letter, said a federal probe was necessary because many of those involved have not been investigated or been asked to give up their copies of the election software.

                  “Every software copy that is reclaimed reduces the risks of further distribution, disinformation and harm to the security of future elections,” Skoglund said. “There should be consequences for widely sharing parts of our national critical infrastructure or others will be encouraged to repeat these schemes.”

                  Same guy in 2024 saying we never got all those machines offline from 2020.

                  Okay, we are here:

                  An independent report on voting machines concluded that tabulation tampering was possible with current voting machines, so hand counts are vital (12). In September, Politico had an investigation finding Russian malware on a state voter registration database (13). Also, there were malicious fake texts from fake DNC organizations, connected to Elon who donated to them, that were fishing voter info (14).

                  So far… Nothing has been unsubstantiated.

                  (12) https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/inside-georgias-effort-to-secure-voting-machines-as-experts-raise-concerns

                  Miles O’Brien:

                  Halderman demonstrated a few seemingly easy ways to breach the security of the Dominion ballot marking device. He used a pen to recycle the power, which gave him administrative control of the computer and he used a widely available USB device favored by computer security experts and hackers to rewrite the software of the machine.

                  All of this mischief could occur without an obvious trace. That’s because the scanner that tabulates the votes does not look at the human readable text. Instead, it derives its data from this Q.R. code.

                  Ok, they are possible to be tampered with, check.

                  (13) https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/01/us-election-software-national-security-threats-00176615

                  New Hampshire officials made an unsettling discovery: The firm had offshored part of the work. That meant unknown coders outside the U.S. had access to the software that would determine which New Hampshirites would be welcome at the polls this November.

                  The revelation prompted the state to take a precaution that is rare among election officials: It hired a forensic firm to scour the technology for signs that hackers had hidden malware deep inside the coding supply chain.

                  The probe unearthed some unwelcome surprises: software misconfigured to connect to servers in Russia and the use of open-source code — which is freely available online — overseen by a Russian computer engineer convicted of manslaughter, according to a person familiar with the examination and granted anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about it.

                  Pretty clear.

                  (14) https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2024/10/pro-trump-dark-money-network-tied-to-elon-musk-behind-fake-pro-harris-campaign-scheme/

                  Building America’s Future, the dark money group at the helm of the network, has steered money to a constellation of groups and initiatives boosting Trump’s agenda and spreading messaging aimed at chipping away voters from Harris. The dark money group reportedly received over $100 million in funding from billionaire Elon Musk, along with other donors, the New York Times recently reported.

                  The newest effort to benefit from their largesse is Progress 2028. Building America’s Future registered to use Progress 2028 as a fictitious name on Sept. 23

                  Some individuals have received text messages directing them to the Progress 2028 page.

                  Progress 2028 has also started pouring money into digital advertising. Since Oct. 11, several digital ads on Facebook and Instagram have included the disclaimer “paid for by Progress 2028” — totaling over $36,000 in ad buys over just five days.

                  While the ads appear to include pro-Harris messaging, they lean into contentious issues listed on the Progress 2028 site that have created friction among different divisions of the party.

                  Okay, so what exactly is wrong with what I said?