Now that Voyager supports PieFed, when promoting the Fediverse on Reddit I will be using this going forward
Try out the decentralised Reddit alternative called PieFed, https://piefed.social/
It also has a mobile app: https://vger.app/settings/install
I use it alongside Reddit, and I'm enjoying it more and more, slowly switching over
Some of the biggest complaints people switching over have are
- Not sure which server to choose
- No onboarding
- Too much politics
- Trouble logging in
- Bad UX/UI (for a lot of people)
PieFed solves all of this, it has good onboarding, login is real easy you can even login with google, during onboarding you can filter out trump/musk spam, UX/UI is lightyears better for your average user, it has de-duplication etc.
If I understood correctly, piefed is not an instance, it is whole separate… thing? (I’m not sure how these things are called anymore, I think of them as forum+) with its own instances and stuff?
That is correct yes, it’s its own separate thing, but has a lot of parallels with Lemmy and shares the same content.
Now I’m confused again. How it shares the same content? It can access lemmy? How about the other way? Can I see piefed instances? If so, what is the difference?
Jip that is how the Fediverse works, and the beauty of the Fediverse.
Lemmy, Mastodon, PieFed etc. are all part of the same network, and depending on the filters etc. you can see and interact with content.
Have a look for yourself https://piefed.social/
It is the same thing.
It’s a different software, but it can interact well with Lemmy and Mbin, especially as they same the similar format. Mastodon - Lemmy compatibility for instance is way more clunky.
These interactions and compatibilities are still very confusing to me, probably because I only browse from voyager.
Does it mean that I can post or comment on mastodon or piefed with this account? If so, how?
You can browse and interact with [email protected] or [email protected] using your current account.
OP posted to this community (hosted on Lemmy) using their Piefed account.
Don’t overthink it, it’s mostly transparent for you.
Mastodon is a different story, but that’s why I said it’s clunky
So from the user point of view they are undistinguishable.
Yes, if you pay attention you can see what instance this community or user is using, but beyond that, it’s quite transparent
Piefed support in Voyager is pretty rough right now, recommending it might do more harm than good.
Valid point, hopefully in a few weeks it will be better.
I was waiting for Voyager to add Pieces support. Seems like it’s best to wait a bit more.
Hey, thanks for the Voyager rec! Note, Piefed is still experimental with Voyager, there are known issues, so as others said it might be a bit early to recommend to brand new users.
Also, any reason you prefer https://vger.app/settings/install versus https://getvoyager.app/? The latter has a bit nicer onboarding!
I’ll hold off till it’s more stable. Thanks for pointing out https://getvoyager.app/, I did not know of it
It solves quite a few issues indeed.
We should probably keep an eye on decentralization to make sure that users and communities spread across Piefed instances, but that’s probably something for the future.
Agreed, I promote https://piefed.ca/ when appropriate
I try to do the same with lemmy.zip, using @[email protected] already brings some awareness
Where are you all advertising this stuff? I feel so bad mentioning https://quokk.au/ like I’m spamming advertising.
Sadly URL’s matter a lot to your average user, I’ve had a few people tell me to “Get lost with your virus link” when I promoted eg. https://lemmy.world/, that’s another reason I like https://piefed.social/ and https://piefed.ca/
I mostly promote on r/BuyFromEU , r/BuyCanada, r/deGoogle etc. when appropriate
When people complain about BigTech I point them to the Fediverse, else it just feels like spam
I’ve had a few people tell me to “Get lost with your virus link” when I promoted eg. https://lemmy.world/
lol that’s sad, if that’s how identifying viruses worked then ISPs, OSes, and web browsers would’ve banned those TLDs a long time ago
oh cool didn’t know quokk.au was piefed! i’ll be switching when voyager gets stable. i’ll keep that in mind :)
it’d be a slam dunk choice if it weren’t hosted in the US
Hadn’t quokk.au before - looks great!
So some general purpose PieFed instances with neat domain names other than the flagship are:
- https://quokk.au/ 🇺🇲
- https://feddit.online/ 🇺🇲
- https://piefed.ca/ 🇨🇦
- https://piefed.zip/ 🇪🇺
- https://piefed.au/ 🇦🇺
- https://piefed.world/ (“still under construction”)
The list seems to be growing very quick, which is of course cool.
- https://feddit.online/ - USA
- https://piefed.ca/ - Canada
- https://piefed.zip/ - Europe
- https://piefed.au/ - Australia
Thanks, updated my post! Some of those are pretty intuitive, but I didn’t want to make assumptions. :)
Also, are you sure quokk.au isn’t Australian? @[email protected]
On lemmy itself, [email protected] have regular threads with people complaining about Lemmy, such as this one: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/47470272/19657445
Otherwise /r/RedditAlternatives
Sorry, but I still don’t understand how exactly PieFed supposedly has a better onboarding and helping new users choose a server. Am I missing something?
The onboarding asks you about your interests and subscribes you to a few communities. It also asks you how much politics you want to see. That’s quite better than Lemmy.
And how does it help new users choose a server to sign up to?
To be confirmed with @[email protected] , but I guess they meant that their comment helps by pointing to that instance.
Being able to recommend the flagship instance of the project is a difference with Lemmy
It’s different. Better if you prefer following along but worse if you prefer direct control.
For direct control, you can just skip it
