• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    Most people are just going to see the meme, and their views will be reinforced according to what they think the consensus is portrayed as in their media milieu.

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      I mean, the billionaire offering to fund, basically anyone, to run against him, Cuomo’s non-concession staying on the ballot, leaving The Squad to defend him from outrageous fascist threats to deport him, and still no concerted national pushback messaging on the Big Beautiful Reich bill.

      It may not be right, but it’s got truthiness.

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        Sure, but I think it undermines democrats who have been willing to go to bat for Mamdani like Jerry Nadler and Chris Van Hollen.

        I’d like to see as much praise for these people as we see condemnation of people like Gillibrand. The democrats are genuinely split here and it would be valuable to see the correct side come out on top.

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          No it doesn’t. It only does if those are the majority of the Democratic party. And they’re not. I don’t think many are finding this meme to mean there aren’t Democrats that toil against the majority of the party. I find the constant purity testing of memes and critique of the Democratic party serves much more to shield the part that shouldn’t be shielded from critique. Oh no, this critique isn’t 99% accurate! Yes. It’s 80% accurate.

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        I mean, the billionaire offering to fund, basically anyone, to run against him,

        Were we expecting billionaires to act any differently?

        Or are we asserting billionaires run the Dem Party?

        Cuomo’s non-concession staying on the ballot,

        “His sex predator opponent is a shit person” /=/ “The Party™ is fighting Mamdani with all its got!”

        leaving The Squad to defend him from outrageous fascist threats to deport him,

        Even Chuck Schumer, legitimate neoliberal supreme, has defended Mamdani on that account.

        and still no concerted national pushback messaging on the Big Beautiful Reich bill.

        It’s been consistently stalled by Dems and its cuts, particularly to Medicaid, a genuinely unpopular cut that plays well with a broad swathe of the electorate, highlighted by Dem mainstays; not really sure what more is reasonably expected at this point and juncture.

        It may not be right, but it’s got truthiness.

        Yeah, that’s kind of the problem. Back when that term was coined, ‘truthiness’ was a criticism of right-wing ‘feels over reals’ talking points, not an endorsement of the concept. It’s really not thrilling to see it used as justification for passing along talking points on the nominal left.

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          Were we expecting billionaires to act any differently?

          Or are we asserting billionaires run the Dem Party?

          No, especially one who identifies as a republuQan but is trying to fund a Dem challenger out of the goodness of his civic-minded heart.
          There is an AIPAC angle to Dem funding (ALL funding, to be clear) which is not great in this specific context.

          “His sex predator opponent is a shit person” /=/ “The Party™ is fighting Mamdani with all its got!”

          No, but if he’s going rogue, I’d prefer to hear some party heavy say it. It sounds like they convinced him to stick around as a spoiler. Whether they did or not. It’s an asshole move and reflects poorly on them.

          Even Chuck Schumer, legitimate neoliberal supreme, has defended Mamdani on that account.

          Glad to hear it. Chuck has his moments now and then. His defense did not make it into my feed fwiw, but that’s not too surprising.

          It’s been consistently stalled by Dems and its cuts, particularly to Medicaid, a genuinely unpopular cut that plays well with a broad swathe of the electorate, highlighted by Dem mainstays; not really sure what more is reasonably expected at this point and juncture.

          Well this is it’s own post, but something that would make the highlight reels would be Pelosi saying she fucked up shoehorning Connolly in there, more DNC household names on the road with Bernie & AOC (Why is Warren not in there, as an example, she’s got anti-oligarchy chops). Setting off a smoke bomb in the conference room, throwing a pie at Perjury Traitor Greed, tying Mike Johnson’s shoes together, paid advertisements, a WARPED Tour with free t-shirt swag; shit it feels like they’re content to get quoted in the NYT and tour the Sunday morning circuit and that’s it for the PR.

          No one’s confused that the Democrats are shit at messaging; the few times they broke out (remember the first two weeks of Kamala’s campaign?) they get shushed by fogeys and idiot consultants.

          It’s months past time to start doing outrageous fucking shit. As it is, this is the press they’re generating.

          What they need to do is:

          1.) recognize it
          2.) address it
          3.) cause a fumble on the republiQan offense
          4.) run it back for six
          5.) repeat