• Sanctus@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Are you serious right now? We live in a time of mass strife brought on by the redcaps. If you dont want your face and name on the internet dont support fascism.

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        2 days ago

        it’s not “doxxing” when they posted that photo themselves voluntarily. especially since there’s no home address, work address, phone number, etc. they obviously want the world to know they’re maga. and now the world does.

        fuck them

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        2 days ago

        They are sending their masked goons to kidnap people. They should not sleep safe or soundly. I’ll make sure to feed your high horse when they come for you.

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          23 hours ago

          Ah yes so the best way to handle that is to doxx parents of a murderer because they are MAGA. That will show the government!

          All you are doing is stooping down to their level and using their tactics against people who didn’t have anything to do with the situation other than the fact of “they had a kid”.

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            21 hours ago

            If you’re MAGA, you endorse Jan 6 and support a convicted felon to lead the world.

            Fuck MAGA.

            Fuck these two—in spite of their alleged murderer son.

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              You don’t commit crimes against people because “they support maga”. Otherwise what you are doing is legitimizing them committing crimes against you, because you aren’t maga. Let the courts handle this, not public opinion, and defo not public opinion aimed at the parents of the perp.

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                My point was that their proud wearing of MAGA caps, in my view, renders them deplorable even if their child’s killing spree was not in any way their fault. (Which, come on, it almost certainly is.)

                Fuck them in spite of him.

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                12 hours ago

                Crimes were not committed against the parents. There is no gag order on publicly posted info. If they receive threats as a result, THEN a crime will have occurred: it is illegal to make threats.

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          23 hours ago

          Off of wikipedia - it is an act of publically providing personally identifiable information about an individual without their consent

          1. There is their face - personally identifiable
          2. There is “these are the parents of a murderer” which is the additional information.

          And if you read up on the article you will know that “aggregation from public databases and social media” counts too.

          It may be carried out for reasons such as online shaming (…)

          So yeah, this is 100% doxxing, so save me your “oh you don’t know what it means” spiel.

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            17 hours ago

            Wow, some folks really do have trouble with the concept of cause and effect, don’t they? They gave consent when they publicly posted the pics online.

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              17 hours ago

              No, they didn’t give consent to have their names and faces shown publicly to people like you who would shame them for the crime of having a kid that grew up and commited murder.

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                15 hours ago

                Actually they did when they posted their names and photos publicly to the internet. “Public” doesn’t mean only the people that you like.

                Edit: Additionally, I find your “people like you” statement hilarious. You know nothing about me, you’re upset that these parents were publicly identified, and you assume my motivations (completely incorrectly.) When something is PUBLICLY posted, that means there are NO restrictions on who sees it. Consent is not qualified by “oh I posted it publicly but not for this group of people I don’t like.” Public means everyone. Had they posted it PRIVATELY, you’d have an argument. But they did not, so you don’t have a valid argument, you’re just upset. There’s a difference between the two.

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                  16 hours ago

                  Read up on the wikipedia definition of doxxing. It states plainly - it can be done from public databases or from social media, and that the goal is often to shame someone. This fits 100%. Otherwise you could argue that “it’s not doxxing, I just went through this guys comments and he slipped up and said that he lives in X city, then posted a photo that let me triangulate his exact location in the city from landmarks”. It is doxxing and a criminal act.

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                    15 hours ago

                    Please show me the law that was broken by referencing publicly available posts voluntarily shared by the people in question. Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean it’s a “criminal act.”