Ramos says 38% of the U.S. military are noncitizens, and believes thousands are being deported for non-violent crimes.
Holy shit that’s wild. I had no idea the numbers were that high. I always knew the military targeted poor people, but didn’t realize how nearly half of them weren’t citizens.
They’re definitely not. First hand experience tells me that when a soldier enlists during in processing they start the process for naturalization. I saw several recruits that came in with me go through the paperwork with a drill instructor. If this 38% is “real” then it must be “all time”. But modern military for sure it is not.
Few Americans realize that 65,000 immigrants serve in the US military today. That number includes some 18,700 troops who hold green cards (in other words, legal permanent residents who are not yet naturalized citizens). According to the Pentagon, about 5,000 such residents enlist each year.
Since the total number of the US armed forces is around 1.3 million, it follows that 38% is definitely wrong and the correct number of immigrants is likely around 5%.
I think the 38% number originates from service member naturalization stats or service member family stats and has been mis-interpreted. Can’t tell for sure, didn’t hire a spy to find out. :)
P.S. Edit: found a secondary source with similar data:
Holy shit that’s wild. I had no idea the numbers were that high. I always knew the military targeted poor people, but didn’t realize how nearly half of them weren’t citizens.
Not sure where they’re getting that number from, honestly. The actual numbers are MUCH smaller, though still non-neglible.
Tried to dig around a bit, it seems a number the military doesn’t keep very good or active track of. Seems to trend in the single percentages though.
They’re definitely not. First hand experience tells me that when a soldier enlists during in processing they start the process for naturalization. I saw several recruits that came in with me go through the paperwork with a drill instructor. If this 38% is “real” then it must be “all time”. But modern military for sure it is not.
I think the 38% number is definitely wrong, maybe even wrong by one order of magnitude.
I tried fact-checking and came up with this:
https://providencemag.com/2018/04/what-a-country-immigrants-serve-us-military-well
Since the total number of the US armed forces is around 1.3 million, it follows that 38% is definitely wrong and the correct number of immigrants is likely around 5%.
I think the 38% number originates from service member naturalization stats or service member family stats and has been mis-interpreted. Can’t tell for sure, didn’t hire a spy to find out. :)
P.S. Edit: found a secondary source with similar data:
https://www.usafis.org/can-i-join-the-us-military-as-a-green-card-holder/
Since green card holders aren’t the only variety of immigrant, the number 65 000 seems plausible.